Talk:Karel Soucek

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A barrel with the phrase "Karl Soucek Last of the Niagara Daredevils" was on display in the Niagara Falls area in 1979.

Aab0602 (talk) 09:28, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

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Hi Joe, first of all thank you very much for your attempt to improve our encyclopedia in good faith, I hope you'll stick around and help put a good article together for Mr. Soucek, he deserves one in my opinion. Actually, on one occasion I visited his grave in Drummond Hill Cemetery. My reversion of your additions to the article is nothing personal, it has to do with Wikipedia's policy regarding what is considered reliably sourced information for material to be included in the encyclopedia. See WP:RELY for details on this policy. The long and the short of it is that all information added to Wikipedia has to be sourced from previously published reliable sources, our own personal recollections can't be used as a source. The problem is that even though someone like your self is offering valid information based on their own first hand knowledge, others would simply make up content and try to pass it off as real, without reliable referencing, if you think about it I'm sure you'll agree that Wikipedia would quickly become unusable; no one would be able to determine what material was 'real' and what was bogus. Mr. Soucek received a fair amount of press coverage, especially in newspapers, as long as the name and date of the publication appear, newspaper stories are perfectly acceptable as a reference in Wiki. I also noticed that he is frequently discussed in many of the more recent falls 'daredevil' books, another potential source of information. Ultimately, the best source would be if people like yourself, who have intimate first hand knowledge of the subject, decided to write and publish details themselves. If you check out the top of the article, you'll see a template in place that points out that at the moment, the article has no sources at all for the information it contains. Although it has two external links, one contains only images and the other is very 'thin' on supporting what's being claimed in the article itself. The problem only increases if even more unsourced material is added over time, which is why I'm removing your material. I hope you'll take the time to help build a well referenced article for this man, if you need bibliographical leads for locating newspaper stories, just let me know. If you reside in the Niagara Falls Ontario area, I'd strongly suggest visiting the local history collection reference desk at the main branch of their library, they maintain a large newspaper clipping collection on this subject. As I said, if you need help on this just let me know. In closing, I'd like to remind you of one more important thing when you're considering adding extensively to an article. Wikipedia articles should be written from a "neutral point of view", it might be a good idea to carefully read the following policy regarding how to do this at:WP:NPV. I'll copy and paste this to the article's talk page, so that we can stay in touch. The best place to discuss these sorts of issues is there. cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 20:32, 10 September 2009 (UTC)