Talk:Karl Mayer

Hmm... has it been stated that he's jewish? Pjär80 23:42, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Merge

I propose to merge Karl Mayer into the list of characters because the character has not managed to establish clear notability. Apart from the fact that within the series he is not a major character (only the Season 2 appearances, the rest are cameos and minor interventions), in the real world there is a lack of deep coverage by a vast amount of reliable secondary sources on Karl, and there is no impact in popular culture. Thoughts? --LoЯd ۞pεth 06:00, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

A week has passed and there was not opposition at all. The article is then merged into the list. --LoЯd ۞pεth 05:51, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I din't know about this. Look, Karl was a regular back in season two, credited as a "star", and it has been established for a very long time that stars get pages here on DH wiki. And the fact that he keeps coming back every season for cameo appearances marks him as a notable character from the past who the fans yearn to see so much he is brought back every year. He appeared in two episodes already this season. Karl deserves to have his own page. Why do people insist on deleting character pages? Leave DH alone, there are a lot of shows with dozens of pages for characters that don't were in only two or three episodes, go merge or delete those. - Renaboss (talk) 10:21, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree with the merge. Instead of having all these individual articles around it's better if we construct a good List of characters. Check the example of List of Prison Break characters. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:47, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Renaboss, first of all you have to watch your tone. You have no right to tell people what to do or not. Merging is not deleting, it is, according to Wikipedia:Merge, "a normal editing action, something any editor can do, and as such does not need to be proposed and processed." However, I asked other contributors by placing a tag during a week. Second, you seriously need to read the wiki policies and guidelines on Notability and Fiction. Almost none of the articles on DH characters have managed to prove notability, instead focus entirely on large and in-universe plot sections, and that's why DH has no any good article or featured article at all. Surely there's information out there to prove notability on really important characters like Susan, Lynette, Mike, etc. However, I think that secondary characters (like Karl, John, Felicia) have less chances to meet notability. A bebo page is not notability, it is merely an external link, and cameo appearances in later seasons have nothing to do with notability.. If you add reception sections with deep analysis and large coverage by reliable secondary sources, and facts that prove impact in popular culture, then all those articles you are defending might deserve their own article. For instance, Wikipedia:Trivia sections must be avoided. --LoЯd ۞pεth 19:31, 29 March 2009 (UTC)