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Feedback from New Page Review process
editI left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Thank you for this new article. In the opening sentence, it is not necessary to back up a basic fact with so many different footnotes..
---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:24, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
Notability
edit@Yaxu: I don't agree that these references establish notability. They back up the content of the article lead, but references 1, 3, 4, 6, and 7 are either places where she has been quoted (that doesn't establish notability, anyone can give a media interview) or one-line mentions in a larger piece. Please read WP:NBIO or WP:CREATIVE which is specific to authors/artists/etc. and tell me specifically which criteria you think she passes. shoy (reactions) 13:39, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
Fixing ping @Yaxu: shoy (reactions) 13:40, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- The article could definitely be improved, but I'd say she is clearly notable for the reason in the first sentence, as explored in the extensive interview published by MIT Press. Yaxu (talk) 07:17, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- I just had another look at the references. Have another look at reference 7 in particular, it doesn't fit your description. Yaxu (talk) 08:29, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- I added more references, which has changed the numbering - I was referring to the Boden and Edmonds interview in my previous comment.
- @Yaxu: I'm not sure which reference that is. In general, interviews don't establish notability because they aren't independent of the subject. shoy (reactions) 12:42, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
- That's not what "independent of the subject" means. Something is independent of the subject as long if it is produced by someone other than the subject (or an affiliate). There is only one citation in the references section that is authored by Boden and Edmonds, it's a book published by MIT Press, who as far as I know, are independent of the subject. Yaxu (talk) 16:52, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
- More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Interviews#Notability Yaxu (talk) 16:56, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Yaxu: From your link: "Under this definition, anything interviewees say about themselves or their own work is both primary and non-independent. If it's primary and non-independent, our guidelines make clear that it does not contribute to notability." (Please ping me when you reply) shoy (reactions) 18:28, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Shoy: So what? The section goes on to explain the ways in which interviews can (and in this case, does) contribute to notability. Yaxu (talk) 21:21, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Yaxu: From your link: "Under this definition, anything interviewees say about themselves or their own work is both primary and non-independent. If it's primary and non-independent, our guidelines make clear that it does not contribute to notability." (Please ping me when you reply) shoy (reactions) 18:28, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
- More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Interviews#Notability Yaxu (talk) 16:56, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Unsourced statements
editUser:Yaxu, the burden is on you to provide those references, please read Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uwsi (talk • contribs) 23:25, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Why me? I didn't write the text. Yaxu (talk) 23:38, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Also, which part of that page are you referring to? Yaxu (talk) 23:41, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by an inline citation to a reliable, published source.
- I would also like to remind you of WP:COI. Uwsi (talk) 23:46, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Then add the citations! They wouldn't be hard to find. Or at least add citation needed tags asking someone else to. Blanking useful and uncontroversial content rarely improves it. Yaxu (talk) 07:41, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
You claim that you are new to Wikipedia, so I've added the tags for you. Yaxu (talk) 08:14, 20 January 2022 (UTC)