Talk:Kaykaus I

Names

Kay Kaus I gives 200 English language hits, against 590 for Keykavus I. I moved the page to Keykavus I. Izzeddin Keykavus I seems better still. Cretanforever 20:39, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

The laqab, or honorific, Izzeddin or 'Izz al-Din, is helpful to know, but not strictly important for identifying this ruler. Such laqabs are used throughout the period, and the title 'Izz al-Din, “Glory of Religion,” is assigned to several notable figures in the Seljuq line as well as many contemporaries outside the dynasty.

The English language academic literature and, significantly, numismatic catalogues are satisfied to identify the sultan as either “Kaykaus” or “Kayka’us”. The former seems more elegant. Those with the requisite linguistic skills will not need to consult Wikipedia.

I fail to recognize the value of Google hits in the proper naming of things. Aramgar 22:29, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Photo

I took a photograph of the remarkable bilingual inscription in Sinop. The inscription per se is an interesting monument to Kayka'us and his age. I would like to donate the photo but have observed the problems of others in posting images. Please help. Aramgar 21:22, 23 July 2007 (UTC) Done. Aramgar (talk) 20:25, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Tamil Nadu and Kayka'us I

"Koothanallur Inscription from Big Mosque "

Two users, User:Jamaldn and User:Mdnet, have made improbable claims over half a dozen articles about Rum Seljuq settlement in southern India and diplomatic relations between Kayka'us I and Kulothunga Chola III. Always the same citation is adduced: "J. P. Mulliner. Rise of Islam in India. University of Leeds chpt. 9. Page 215." I have failed to find any trace of this book in libraries of record or Worldcat. I believe that the source is spurious. If editors wish to make extraordinary claims, they need to bring reliable sources to a talkpage first. This particular talk page seems as good as any. Aramgar (talk) 02:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Aramgar deleted many times my posting in wiki, please go to University of Leeds public library and check for that book, i didn't know anything about Kaykaus but seen this matter printed in Rise of Islam in India book, for your reference you may ask any historian that there a strong presence of Turkish Seljuk in Tamil Nadu with many inscriptions kept in Indian museum.11:33, 10 February 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdnet (talk • contribs)

My searches have turned up no such book. You are welcome to check the University of Leeds Library yourself. Since you have seen this book and presumably know where to find it again, would you please check the title and author? Also note that the licensing information on the inscription (right) list the author as "HJ Mulliner" not "J. P. Mulliner". I am now sincerely curious about the origin of the Rûm Seljuqs of Tamil Nadu tradition. Regards, Aramgar (talk) 19:05, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

You mean this H.J. Mulliner? Kafka Liz (talk) 19:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

I am sorry to say that my partner made mistake by typing H.J. Mulliner it's actually J.P.Mulliner, I agree it's his mistake to type wrongly. I'm unable to find that book in that website. Anyway to tell Seljuk have trade links with Chola is a big honour for Turkish since Chola known as a very powerful dominant empire in Asia. What would you say with that inscription pics? What would you say about Turkish invasion in India? It's a well known history.Mdnet12:47, 12 February 2009

I would respectfully disagree that this is well-know history. The assertion that the Rûm Seljuqs had anything to do with Chola qualifies as an exceptional claim and as such requires exceptional sources. No sources have been forthcoming. The Mulliner book cannot be located, not even at the library of the institution that published it. None of the reliable sources I have examined over the last few days mention a connection. The only thing I have found are a few discussions of the words Turukkar and Tulukkar as a designation for Tamil Muslims, who as it turns out have little to do with the Turks and nothing at all to do with the Seljuqs (see just one example here). I suggest we let this go for now. Though I am curious about the origins of this particular myth, we cannot really pursue it without reliable sources. Aramgar (talk) 16:32, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I will think better leave this matter too, it's not very required things to published in Wiki, anyway there has a proof that this Tamil Muslims have relationship with Turkish. I didn't say University of Leeds published this book, but i read it there few years before when i'm in UK.(Mdnet01:07, 13 February 2009

Name

• "Kaykaus I" -Llc 10 results
• "Kaikaus I" -Llc 55 results
• "Kayka’us I" -Llc 30 results
• "Kaika’us I" -Llc 17 results