Talk:Kazerne Dossin Memorial, Museum and Documentation Centre

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Title

Re-titled to "Kazerne Dossin – Memorial". The title was too long. Wakari07 (talk) 20:49, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

I request this article be moved to Kazerne Dossin Memorial. However, since there is a redirect in place by that name to this article, the redirect link should be deleted so that this article can be named as Kazerne Dossin Memorial. Adamdaley (talk) 06:08, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 10 March 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: consensus to move the page as proposed, based on a lack of specific objections. Users are free to separately request a move to Kazerne Dossin (currently a disambiguation page). (non-admin closure) Sangdeboeuf (talk) 02:39, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

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Kazerne Dossin – Memorial → Kazerne Dossin Memorial – Move over existing redirect (WP:MOR), as requested on talk page since 2013 and uncontested. Wakari07 (talk) 13:42, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

• Move and Meerge to Kazerne Dossin. It's a memorial and museum and the original barracks are also notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:24, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Support this suggestion.--Ortizesp (talk) 07:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

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The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Kazerne Dossin as disambiguation page

I changed the redirect from Kazerne Dossin to a disambiguation page, since at least two topics cover the title in current use. The Austrian barracks were commissioned in 1759 and were named for Émile Dossin de Saint-Georges in 1936. [1]. Wakari07 (talk) 14:05, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

clarification number of Jewish survivors

The article states "By the time of the liberation and the end of the Holocaust in Belgium, only 1,221 Belgian Jews had survived." Clearly this is untrue; I suppose what is meant is that only 1,221 of the Belgian Jews who were at one point or another imprisoned in Kazerne Dossin survived the war. Since most Jews who were deported from Belgium did not have Belgian citizenship, what about them? And what about non-Jews such as Romanis? And where does the figure come from? It would be nice if the person who wrote this could clarify and complete.

Thank you for pointing this out. The number comes from the article creator [2]. The source cited on 24 August 2009 was the website of the Jewish Museum of Deportation and Resistance and is currently dead. An archived version has "This place was the departure point for a deportation without return. In the years between 1942 and 1944, 24.916 Jews and 351 Gypsies were transported to the camps in the east. Two thirds were gassed upon arrival. At the time of the liberation only 1.221 people had survived." The currently cited source says "Between July 1942 and September 1944, 25,274 Jews and 354 gypsies were rounded up and transported to Auschwitz-Birkenau and to a number of smaller concentration camps. Two-third of the deported persons was gassed immediately upon arrival. At the liberation of the camps, only 1,395 were still alive." The context is clearly survivors from all those who transited here. I adapted the article as "Between July 1942 and September 1944, Kazerne Dossin (Dossin Barracks) was known as SS-Sammellager Mecheln, a Nazi collection and deportation camp. Here, 25,274 Jews and 354 gypsies were rounded up and transported to Auschwitz-Birkenau and other concentration camps in the east. Two-thirds were killed upon arrival. By the time of the liberation and the end of the Holocaust in Belgium, only 1,395 of them had survived." Wakari07 (talk) 15:38, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Reminder

This article is not about the politics of Israel. Wakari07 (talk) 10:44, 11 March 2020 (UTC)