Talk:Kees Bruynzeel

Notability

The notability of Kees Bruynzeel can be compared with that of Anton Rupert in Stellenbosch context. Gregorydavid 10:55, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

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Name / dates

Was "Kees" his full name? I found the following two dates at [1], which seems to correspond with his own birthdate, at least:

• March 2, 1901: Born: Willem Bruynzeel, Dutch timber-merchant
• January 4, 1978: Willem Bruynzeel, Dutch timber/lumber/wood manufacturer, dies at 76

I strongly suspect this is the same person. A cursory google tends to confirm the name, at least. dewet|✉ 08:14, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Willem could have been his brother..

see this:

" Fotograaf en Publicist - Peter Marcuse geleid door Kees en Willem Bruynzeel, onder supervisie van Bruynzeel senior. Het contact met Kees Bruynzeel, dat uit 1920 dateerde, was blijven bestaan en ...

www.marcuse.nl/foto.php?pageID=157 - 18k - Cached - Similar pages "

Doh! Of course, I didn't suspect that at all. Were they twins? I wonder if there are some genealogical records we can find online... dewet|✉ 10:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I did not think of them being twins either, but that is possible too. I linked Piet Zwart in the article to a possible source..

Gregorydavid

Did he win the Transpacific Yacht Race in 1967?

I edited this article a lot. His family's business is quite well known for floors, kitchens, pencils, etc. Bruynzeel now has factories in 14 countries. His sailing successes were also noteworthy, so I don't think we have to worry about notability. In fact, the Bruynzeel company probably should have a separate entry.

There is lots of genealogical data on his family, but I couldn't find when and where he died. I'm surprised not to find an obituary on-line in the news archives. Perhaps the South-African newspapers haven't been scanned in yet.

He probably is the same "Cornelius Bruynzeel" (Cornelius, Cornelus, Cees, Kees, all the same) who won the Transpac in 1967 and just barely lost this race two years earlier to Robert Johnson [2]. He would have been quite old, but then again, he won a similar race in 1973 still. The name of the transpac boat (stormvogel = "stormpetrol") fits his taste for naming his boats after seabirds. Would be worth adding if it can be confirmed. Afasmit 11:30, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I see you had "Stormvogel" = "Stormpetrol", did you mean "Stormbird"? Some in Stellenbosch suggested it was a nickname for his wife.

Sorry, that was from memory. I meant "storm-petrel", but I mixed up stormvogel with stormvogeltje in Dutch (subtle). "Fulmar" or "Shearwater" would have been the proper translation, and a nice name for a boat. At any rate, you seem to confirm that Cornelius is indeed our Kees. I'll add the information then.

Kees pioneered the manufacture of timber portal frames fabricated by means of custom made laminated timber elements. He also tried to promote the construction of timber houses in South Africa. He was more famous in South Africa for doors than floors, I think.Gregorydavid 12:16, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

You seem to know more about him. Any idea when exactly he came to South Africa ("after WWII" is all I know). And why? There was a lot of rebuilding in Europe, so I doubt that it was economic. He probably died at Stellenbosch. Any data?Afasmit 03:18, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

We can be certain that Kees and Titia Bruynzeel arrived in South Africa before 1949, as they had a large home along the "Bonny Mile" stretch southwest of Stellenbosch, near Vlottenberg, in the Western Cape area of South Africa by that year.

One of his daughters is married to Galt McDermott, a musician who wrote the music to "Hair", the famous Broadway musical play of the late 1960's.

Mr. Bruynzeel was very active at the Cape Town Yacht Club, and had his yacht "Stormvogel" built at his factory (at the time called the General Box Company), in Vlottenberg. The yacht was later used for the setting or the film "Dead Calm" starring Nicole Kidman, Billy Zane and Sam Neill.

03:49, 6 March 2007 (UTC)fmrRSAresident

Neat! Some of this is worth adding to the article itself. Please go ahead. Afasmit 22:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

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