Talk:Kerala Blasters FC/GA1

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Reviewer: Force Radical (talk · contribs) 10:37, 23 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

I will be taking on this GA review . — Force Radical∞ ( TalkContribs ) 10:37, 23 January 2018 (UTC) Shady59 ArsenalFan700-I am currently experiencing some unexpected meatspace priorities and will not be able to devote time to reviewing the article. If you want I can return this too the pool of GA articles or if you are ready to wait until 22 February 2018 (It may also finish earlier than expected in February) I will be able to take on this review after that date.Thanks — FR 03:52, 30 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Force Radical: Sure. No issues. I can wait until 22 February Shady59 (talk) 08:50, 30 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Force Radical: Thank you again. Let's begin. Shady59 (talk) 03:49, 24 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
I am ready to assist as well when needed. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 18:19, 24 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Official Report 1 (Summary before and after fixes according to comments)

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This article passes its Good article nomination. This is how the article, as of January 8, 2018, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?:   Pass (Worked on during GA review)
2. Verifiable?:   Pass (Worked on during GA review)
3. Broad in coverage?:   Pass
4. Neutral point of view?:   Pass
5. Stable?:   Pass
6. Images?:   Pass

The article in its current state   Passes the GA criteria. The article needs a far more rigorous citation system and there are some layout issues which need to be resolved — Force Radical ( TalkContribs ) 06:52, 8 January 2018 (UTC) Reply

• Resolved Comments — FR+ 06:29, 23 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Shady59 & ArsenalFan700: I am sorry for the delay I caused due to my meatspace priorities. Getting on with the GA review I notice certain problems in the article. A Twitter post and a post on the corporation's own website are used as references. These are inadmissible for GA and should be removed. I also find certain sites such as goal.com and worldfootball.net of whoes reliability I am uncertain about (I personally have never heard of them). Please verify if these sites are reliable and if they are not then substitute with other sources. Also please standardise the references so that all of them have access dates, source dates and publishers/websites. (In particular the ISL website refs are not standardized).The article also needs CE for tone correction and grammatical mistakes — Frc Rdl 07:33, 2 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
Hey, no worries about the delay but there might need to be an extended one for a little bit. I have been busy myself the last few weeks and I feel that the page has been hit with a little vandalism or other changes that I would like to get through soon before starting the GA properly. As for goal.com and worldfootball.net, both of those are completely reliable sources. Goal.com is a news website that has been featured on many GA football articles before and I have used it for Indian football articles on here since I started over eight years ago. Worldfootball.net I cross-referenced with the actual Indian Super League website to make sure the attendances are accurate and I can confirm that they are. The stats are also correct and can be cross-referenced on both soccerway and the Indian Super League website. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 08:12, 2 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the quick response, Ill pop back in a week to see how things are. If you have any doubts you can ping me to this page(If pings don't work feel free to post on my talk page) — Frc Rdl 10:40, 2 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
That will work for me. By around 7 or 8 March should be good. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 17:58, 3 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
Hey, the article is good now for review! --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 21:11, 6 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
Will take it up to when I get time  — FR+ 15:58, 7 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Report 1

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Here goes:

Lede

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  • The Blasters compete in the Indian Super League, one of the top leagues of Indian football. Needs to be sourced later in the article
  • The club's current majority stake holder is Sachin Tendulkar.[2]
  • The Blasters play their matches at the Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium. Creates ambiguity. Have they never played an away match ?Please reword.
  • led the league-led in terms of
  • A last minute winnergoal
  • Please check the last para of the lede. It seems to use language which is better suited for sensational journalism and not for the encyclopaedia.

I will take up the History section tomorrow — FR+ 07:11, 8 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Will add a source later in the article. Fixed the second point, the third point, fourth point, and fifth point. Not sure what you mean by sensational journalism. All the stuff in that last paragraph is factual and doesn't try to paint this in any other way. More clarification on that would be nice. Thanks. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 22:59, 8 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
I have done some minor ce. My major point of contention was the despite bit which seemed to try and suppress the fact that they did not do that well in the next season — FR+ 06:54, 9 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
Ah, no worries then. And don't worry about your speed. I am in no rush :) --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 19:03, 9 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

History

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Formation
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  • Construction of the team-Construction sound a bit weird in the context.
Replaced with with "Preparations." --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 19:08, 9 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
  • Please add at least some info on some prominent players
What do you mean by this? Like, where and what? --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 19:08, 9 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
The WP:SEAOFBLUE in the last sentence of the second paragraph of formation. — FR+ 07:16, 10 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
Ah, I get that. I really added that there in preparation for in a few years (believe it or not) when we could create a History of Kerala Blasters FC page and add it there (since detail will be greater there than the main page). I guess I could shorten it to only prominent players like I did with Jamshedpur FC. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 23:48, 10 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
  • I have made certain ce edits (If you find anything wrong please fix it) to remove redundant portions(if you look at it from the pov of a reader it does not add context to the article) .Going through the rest of the article, please refer to this essay and remove such redundant bits from the article.
Will do! --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 19:08, 9 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
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  • The Kerala Blasters began play in October 2014.-Redundant
This is based on what Seattle Sounders FC (another FA article) in their inaugural season. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 14:25, 11 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
I don't know about its usage in the other article but in this case the sentence after it reiterates the same thing. — F[[User talk:Force Radical#top|R + 10:50, 14 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
Fair enough. Got rid of sentence. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 15:59, 18 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
  • five-game away run-Clarify   Done
  • A Milagres Gonsalves goal-goal by Milagres Gonsalves   Done
  • The Canadian's goal could not prevent the club-Despite the Canadian's goal, the club   Done
  • massive scare-massive setback   Done
2016 season
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  • find the back of the net.-Clarify   Done
Team colors and crest
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  • Please convert the quotes into block quotes   Done
Supporters and rivalries
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  • held the title highest average attendance in the league every season that they have played.-Clarify   Done

Thats all.Please fix the comments. It seems that most of the problems were in the History part. Once your done just ping me and we can proceed from there. I am putting the article   On hold for now — FR+ 10:50, 14 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Okay, fixed what you said I needed to fix, at least to the best of my ability. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 16:13, 18 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
The reviewer is satisfied that this article passes the GA criteria. — Force Radical∞ ( TalkContribs ) 12:04, 19 January 2018 (UTC)Reply