Talk:Kerala Blasters FC/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 13:13, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

• It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria -
• It contains copyright infringements -
• It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). -
• It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -

Prose

Lede

• is an Indian professional football - no need to link Indian. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:45, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 15:39, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

• the top tier of Indian football. - top tier of football in India. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:45, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 16:42, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

• The club was established on 24 May 2014 and began its first professional season in October the same year. - more relevant than its exact date of formation is that it took part in the inaugural season of the premier league. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:45, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 18:01, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

• Since its inception, the club has worn a yellow home kit. It is one of the most widely supported clubs in Asia. - which of these statements is more important? I'd start this para with "It is one of the most widely supported clubs in Asia, holding the record for the highest league attendance every season since its inauration. The team regularly attracting home attendance of over 40,000 per game." Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:45, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• The bit about playing in yellow is only important if you have a reason for mentioning this. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:45, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

The club is generally identifies by the yellow colour, which is the primary colour of the club since its inception.WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 18:01, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

But is that WP:LEDE-worthy information? Something like Norwich City F.C. states things about playing in yellow and that it ties in with being "The Canaries". The fact they play in yellow seems to have no baring on other information about the team Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:45, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Removed it from lede because there I can't find anything to justify the statement.

 Done

• The final para is a bit all over the place. Remember a lede is supposed to cover the article to give a good overview as to what the subject is without reading the rest of the article. This should read that they were runners-up in the Super League on two occasions, and give the scores, and also the Elite League and Kerala league. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:45, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• Anything that is cited in the body should not also be cited in the lede. I get the need for citations on the claim about being one of the most supported clubs in Asia, but aside from that the citations should be in the body. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:45, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Lee Vilenski I didn't get this one.Can you please clarify. WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 18:01, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• This is also true of the infobox. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:45, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Lee Vilenski I didn't understand this one.Can you explain what should I change here WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 18:01, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

There is no need to put references in the lede/infobox if they are cited in the body. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:45, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

General

• In early 2014 the All India Football Federation—the governing body of association football in India, and IMG–Reliance - something is wrong here... All India Football Federation are the governing body of IMG? This reads as "In early 2014 the All India Football Federation Reliance" as well. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 05:34, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

• accept bids for the ownership of eight of the cities selected for the inaugural season of Indian Super League - they were offering the ownership of a city?!?! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 05:34, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

• Link cricket. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 05:34, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

• the club's official name, Kerala Blasters FC, - where does "Kerala" come from? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• India international - delink or reword, or this is an WP:EASTEREGG link. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 05:34, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

• David James pipes to a redirect. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 05:34, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

• first foreign player to be drafted to the Kerala Blasters - so, not James the week prior? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello Lee Vilenski David james was directly signed by the club while others were pickes from draft.The player draft was the first thing happened and then David James was signed.Thanks WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 05:34, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• The article suffers from a lot of small paragraphs. Could easily combine a lot of these. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• Is it not worth mentioning where the team finished during the regular season, or some comments on a record during the season? The first season suggests they did rather well, but they only won five games. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 05:34, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

• thus enter the final - I've always hated this wording... To a person not-familiar with the sport, or the circomstances, they wouldn't know this to be true Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 DoneWhiteFalcon1 (talk) 05:34, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

• In the final, Kerala Blasters played Atlético de Kolkata at the DY Patil Stadium in Mumbai. Atlético de Kolkata won the match 1–0 after Mohammed Rafique scored in the 95th minute .[29] - punctuation is wrong, but is this really all the info we have, considering we have a full article on this match? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

--- More to come ---

• There is a lot of duplicate links in this article - will need a cull. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• Considering marquee player has a specific meaning (not the one in the link), it will need explaination. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• So, Pete Taylor was a player for the club? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• ended their second season in the last place, failing to qualify for the Indian Super League semi-finals[25] - so much wrong with this. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• It is semi-finals, not semi finals. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• Mohammed Rafique scored before he was signed? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• one of the best defences in the league after the first month of the season - superb fluff. That's like three games. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• Can you really have half-seasons with only 18 games in a season? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• after the return of C.K. Vineeth from loan with Bengaluru FC, the Blasters solved their goal-scoring problem and made their way into the playoffs.[31] - so what effect did Vineeth have on the goals? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• which took place on 11 December 2016 in Kochi. - why is the date important here, when we don't mention it for the final. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• link extra time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• During the second leg in Delhi, the Dynamos won in extra time 2–1, which meant the tie went to penalties where the Blasters won the shootout 3–0 to enter the final. - This isn't something that people would just know. Didn't they win 2-1 in normal time? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• former Manchester United manager René Meulensteen - he was not the United manager.

 Done

• Manchester United players Dimitar Berbatov, Wes Brown and Paul Rachubka - Rachubka only played one match for United, over 15 years before this - bit misleading. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• The Blasters won five of the remaining ten fixtures and finished sixth in the 2017-18 Indian Super League season and were - reword. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• After a disappointing season, the Blasters wanted to make a serious come back and appointed Eelco Schattorie as their new manager - stick to the facts, remove things like "wanted to make a serious come back" Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• Having failed to reach the playoffs of the past three seasons, the management decided to start a new era at the club.[54] - this means nothing Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• The stadium image is far too big. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• Best Pitch of the Season Award - according to whom? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• and it fell to almost 39,000 from 2017 because safety regulations reduced the stadium's capacity to 40,000. - and is the wrong conjecture here Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• The kit images are waay too much info. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• Why does the stats not have anything from pre-2016? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• No more info on Kerala Blasters Reserves? There's no season results, such as how they actually do in the I-league. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• As of 2020 is irreverent. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• "under-X" is not a proper name, so shouldn't have caps. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Review meta comments

• I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}
  • Almost there. I've done some MOS cleanup, specifically on the tables and such. There's two issues that I need you to adjust and then we're clean. One image File:Kibu vicuna.jpg is likely not free, and needs removal, and also there is still a lot of duplicate links in the article that need a cull. If you let me know when both are complete, I'll pass the article. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:46, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello Lee Vilenski I think every issues you addressed are fixed.Thanks WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 13:14, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

I've removed a couple you missed, but looks ok now. Promoting. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:31, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello Lee Vilenski About the review I really learned many things from this review like how a article should maintained , created and how each part article should look like.ThanksWhiteFalcon1 (talk) 14:52, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

No worries. Wikipedia is a complex beast. When you look to nominate a future article, take a look through this and see if things still need to be addressed. The article isn't in a superb state, but meets the GA criteria now. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:55, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Table Of Contents

Per WP:WIAFA, this article's table of contents (ToC) may be too long – consider shrinking it down by merging short sections or using a proper system of daughter pages as per Wikipedia:Summary style. J.Stalin S ^Talk 08:03, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

As this is a GAN subpage, please do not use level 2 headers. I actually recommend this article to use {{TOC limit|2}}. Baring in mind WIAFA has little to do with GA reviews. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:58, 25 November 2020 (UTC)