Talk:Kermesse (festival)

Latest comment: 13 years ago by D.A.Timm in topic Assessment comment

Dutch emphasis

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The emphasis on this being a peculiarly Dutch word seems a little misleading as the very similar Kirmes and variants (de:Kirchweih) seem to be exactly the same thing in Germany. Apart from that problem I don't really see how it is distinct phenomenon from a Fête in British usage or "feasts" in other parts of the world (at the moment feasts just redirects to festival). Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 00:37, 5 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Italian

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Please note that the word is in use in Italian as well.Prolagus (talk) 18:53, 2 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

Assessment comment

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I think Gustav von Humpelschmumpel is right that it may not be appropriate to focus on it as a Belgian tradition. Certainly it was thriving in early 19th century Rhenish Prussia. This article follows its roots in EB1911 and is totally oblivious to the German traditions. Maybe the Catholic Encyclopaedia would have more information. With all the various angles it presents, some citations linked to references would help verification. The two paintings are a nice touch. It seems a rather chaotic article, and I would almost rate it a stub for its deficiencies and disorganization. Almost. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 20:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)Reply


I'd have to agree that it is a bit confusing and chaotic. The following paragraph particularly:

"Arguably the first kermesse was an annual parade to mark the events of 1370 (some sources say 1369) in Brussels, when all the Jewish population of the city of Cologne were burnt alive after being accused of profaning a basket of communion hosts, which bled when stabbed as the accusation was told. These murders continued throughout the duration of the crusades. [1] [2] According to one source, those Jewish residents who could prove that they did not profane the hosts were not killed, but were merely banished from Brussels. [3]"

The first sentence is confusing in that it's not clear if 1370 (or 1369) is the date of the first parade, or of the murders, and if the murders were in Cologne, how does Brussels come into the picture? (Note that the last sentence implies that the murders happened in Brussels, not in Cologne.) And which murders "continued throughout the duration of the Crusades" -- killing of Jews generally (which didn't stop with the ending of the Crusades by any means) or burning alive in Cologne or Brussels?

I'd try to fix it, but don't have ready access to the sources cited. D.A.Timm (talk) 09:13, 15 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

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