Talk:Kert, Nagorno-Karabakh

Requested move 21 December 2020

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to move. After much-extended time for discussion, there is no consensus for a move at this time. BD2412 T 17:08, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Quzumkənd → Kert, Nagorno-Karabakh – Move to "Kert, Nagorno-Karabakh" per WP:AT/WP:COMMONNAME:

Results from Google: Kert: 10,200 Quzumkənd: 629 Guzumkend: 3

Results from Google Scholar: Kert: 55 Quzumkənd: 0 Guzumkend: 2

Regarding the ", Nagorno-Karabakh" disambiguation tag: "Nagorno-Karabakh" is a well established and the accepted term for the region and used by the majority of UN states when referring to the region. Using the common name for a geographic region, or an autonomous region, as well as when it's in dispute, as a disambiguation tag is standard on Wikipedia - a couple of examples: Copceac, Gagauzia, Gaidar, Gagauzia, Tomai, Gagauzia, Ocnița, Transnistria, Rotari, Transnistria, Mitrovica, Kosovo, Kamenica, Kosovo. This formulation was also favored on a past relevant move discussion for the town of Martuni in Nagorno-Karabakh (Khojavend → Martuni, Nagorno-Karabakh).

AntonSamuel (talk) 14:37, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Clarification: Utilizing search results from Google should be done with caution, but is acceptable per WP:NCGN:

Regarding multiple local names: "Simple Google tests are acceptable to settle the matter, despite their problems; one solution is to follow English usage where it can be determined, and to adopt the name used by the linguistic majority where English usage is indecisive."

As this matter concerns a larger issue that is a matter of contention - an RfC for a naming convention for Nagorno-Karabakh may be needed if consensus cannot be achieved, as has been suggested before, however I hope the admin that closes this discussion will look carefully at all the arguments that have been made and take WP:VOTE into consideration.

AntonSamuel (talk) 14:30, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

• Support - per my belief that town names should be whatever the 1988 majority ethnic group prefers. --RaffiKojian (talk) 18:11, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose - This village is located in Azerbaijan and this name was given by Azerbaijani government. EljanM (TALK) 09:45, 23 December 2020

• Oppose. Major misuse of Google search. Most results for "Kert", in fact, reflect completely unrelated contexts, including cases of the word "Stepanakert" carried over to the next line. The official current name is Quzumkənd; this is also the name that features on most pre-1930 maps. Parishan (talk) 06:26, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose per Parishan. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 07:05, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.