Talk:Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

Financing of 1993 WTC attacks

The article about 1993 WTC attack mention that the perpetrators received financing from KSM. Yet this important information is not mentioned here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.12.57.234 (talk) 04:07, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Factual accuracy tag

I just fixed some blatant wrong information in the infobox, he is held at Guantanmo Bay, not ADX Florence. Somebody might want to conduct a comprehensive fact check of this article before removing the tag. Looking at the edit history, I have no doubt there are other inaccuracies that have been buried within this article. Safiel (talk) 14:33, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Thats great you adjusted that, but assuming the rest of the article is possibly factually compromised and slapping a tag atop it without providing details except to assume bad faith of other editors is not helpful. If you can find further issues along the lines you suggest then detail them, otherwise the tag needs to go.--MONGO 16:19, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

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Questionable claim to the authority of WP:NFCC#8

In this edit Hullaballoo Wolfowitz removed an image with the edit summary "fails NFCC#8". Well WP:NFCC#8 says:

Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding.

To merely say something like, "the ad showed an image of KSM looking dissheveled" would be insufficient. He is far more than merely dissheveled. Our policies don't permit us to use the right number and intensity of adjectives for his appearance. A picture is required.

For what it is worth, while the provenance of this image can't be definitively established, it is 99.9 percent certain to have been taken by KSM's CIA snatch team, or his CIA captors. That would put it clearly in the public domain, as {{PD-CIA}}. Geo Swan (talk) 19:02, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

• Whatever the theoretical merits of this argument, which rests on a dubious factual premise, the image at issue is an advertisement published in Turkey. Unless the "Turkish manufacturer of over the counter hair removal cream" which created the advertisement is shown to be a CIA-owned front company, the advertisement is nonfree and simply cannot be used to illustrate its own existence. This is not even a remotely close issue, but settled application of NFCC policy. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. (talk) 20:53, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

• Non-free content can safely be used on Wikipedia as long as it is appropriately tagged and its use meets the fair use criteria as listed under WP:NFC. As to this poster, WP:NFCI #4 applies - the poster is the subject of a critical commentary in the text (and thus cannot be replaced with a free image). — kashmiri ^TALK 23:51, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

• Simply describing an image does not amount to critical commentary. Otherwise saying "Meryl Streep was photographed in a red dress at the Academy Awards" would justify use of a nonfree image, as would (to use a commonly rejected type of claim) "Jessica Hahn/Belinda Carlisle/Charisma Carpenter posed nude for the cover of Playboy". The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. (talk) 01:59, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

• Hullaballoo Wolfowitz, please clarify... I think you are accepting, in principle, that WP:NFCI #4 does apply, to some images, you are just concerned it did not apply to this image. Is this correct?

  Okay, then how about clarifying where you think the line is drawn? Geo Swan (talk) 12:30, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

2nd excision of File:Turkish ads use a hairy and disheveled KSM.jpg

Mere hours after I opened this discussion Hullaballoo Wolfowitz, the contributor who first excised this image, excised it a second time. An administrator has since deleted the image, inappropriately, in my opinion, under WP:CSD#f5. F5 should only be applied to non-free images that have gone un-used for seven days. But I restored the image to use yesterday, so it had only been unused for about four hours, following its second excision, when it was deleted.

I have requested the deleting administrator to restore the image. Geo Swan (talk) 11:02, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

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Torture is torture, right?

Any particular reason why this article reads, "enhanced interrogation techniques" (which links to an article that essentially says this is a turture) while placing the word "torture" parenthetically afterwards? Is there any question that this actually means torture? Bastique ^{☎ call me!} 19:49, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Changes in question [1]. I say change it back. -- John Reaves 19:58, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Trial judge forbids use of FBI interrogations at Guantánamo

"The judge ... ruled that prosecutors may not use key FBI interrogations conducted at the Guantánamo detention center soon after years of CIA black site abuse ended." https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/national-security/article216948430.html

Keith McClary (talk) 16:32, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Non-violence manifesto

"The author has utilized cultural criticisms, theological, and historical references to clarify a rationale for Westerners to follow Islam". None of this description appears in the source, which instead uses phrases such as "deeply extremist religious ramblings". Any objections to deleting this sentence make them known. 2A00:A040:1A3:2A68:89A6:6FA:FC36:B9F7 (talk) 13:15, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

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Introduction

The introduction contains euphemisms that are not worthy of a Wikipedia article: "In March 2007, after significant interrogations…" As the article later states, Mr. Mohammed (like most people who went through the "RDI program") was tortured and confessions were obtained through torture. The introduction should reflect this fact and not use euphemisms. I suggest that an experienced Wikipedia editor make the requisite changes. Thank you. Adam055lakes (talk) 02:10, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

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Reference 101 is gone.

It was deleted over copyright concerns, but this pages still cites it, even though it doesn't exist anymore 91.230.13.164 (talk) 13:14, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

The document under ref 101 is still available at the following USG website, and the subject quote is on page 24. https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/Detainne_Related/15-L-1645_CSRT%20Transcript%20ISN%2010024_10-mar-07.pdf

I tried to correct the source for ref 101 but the quote and the ref is a blockquote. Hope more experienced editors can help fix it. Thanks. Path2space (talk) 23:39, 7 November 2024 (UTC)