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editI added alt text to the lead and updated the singles tally. I must say that the article looks to be in good shape, do you have plans to nominate it for featured list status, Lazz_R? It would have my support with a bit of lead expansion!--NØ 14:21, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- I wouldn’t mind making remaining fixes and nominating this in a few weeks. If anyone is eyeing this for FLC then make sure to leave a reply here. Thanks—NØ 09:15, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- MaranoFan, I'm not trying to reignite some issues with you, because my objections to this would be said to anybody proposing the same thing in a similar situation. But personally I don't really agree with editors who have demonstrably never previously expressed any interest in a topic, even by making minor edits every now and again, stumbling across an alright article worked on almost entirely by other editors and turning it into another accomplishment of sorts for themselves. This just seems really out of the blue and inorganic, unlike say, your interest in Meghan Trainor, which you made clear from an early stage, or the Dua Lipa song you've been expanding. Things like that happened from the start or early on. I believe editors should try to improve topics they've had some hand in building from the start or significantly expanding if it has remained stagnant for a period of time. This list is constantly being added to, as Khalid is an active artist. As one can't expand a discography in the sense of inventing releases that don't exist for an artist, the most an editor working on it for FL could do is work on referencing latter sections and expanding the lead—and for an artist like Khalid, I don't think he has yet accomplished enough to have a very long lead and it would end up being too wordy and complicated for what he's done (which really isn't very much). Everyone I have ever seen nominate an article for GA, FA, FL status, whatever it may be, and achieve it, tries to maintain some standard by reverting any changes they deem substandard and it becomes a lot like ownership—keeping it like a time capsule, maintaining something it used to be that it can't feasibly still remain when the artist it's about is still actively making music, thus the article will be significantly expanded organically rather than forcing it to be so it can be some kind of achievement one editor can put their name to. (Unlike say, albums or singles, that usually have a period of success, and then it ends and the public moves on to other things, so the amount of material available on it slows down/ends almost entirely and it's not forever being added to.)
- The way I see it, myself and Certificationsaccess have worked on this article far more than any other single editor, and honestly, if anybody were going to nominate it, at this point in time, it should be either of us. That's not me saying it's ours, but that's just the way it's happened over the past couple of years that Khalid has been active. However, even in the absence of that, I don't know if it's particularly appropriate for someone else to step in and make it theirs because we haven't done so (at least, yet—I can't speak for Certificationsaccess). Technically nobody can stop you from doing what you want to do, and I don't know if my objection will further motivate you to go ahead and do it regardless. I'm just trying to raise an objection to this type of thing as civilly as possible. I don't wish to have an argument about it here or anywhere, because clearly you've got your eye on it. This is not about you specifically, this is just one of the first times I have seen a user propose this kind of thing on an article I've watched. Ss112 10:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- In case you have plans to nominate it then I’ll refrain. It’s not ready for a nomination yet anyway, I’ll try to work on the lead section a bit.—NØ 11:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- I agree with Ss112. Here is an important line from the top of the FLC page (Ones who are not significant contributors to the list should consult regular editors of the list before nomination.). According to the list's history, Ss112 and Certificationsaccess are the top two contributors. If you are interested in pursuing this as an FLC, then I would highly encourage you to contact both of them about it. I am honestly unfamiliar with the artist (I have completely given up on keeping up with contemporary music) so I do not have suggestions or recommendations for improving the list itself. Aoba47 (talk) 18:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- Aoba47, It’s interesting that you found your way into this discussion, considering you haven’t made a single edit to the article in question. What’s up with that?—NØ 14:45, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @MaranoFan: I sometimes check your contributions/edits because I have a genuine interest in your projects. Aoba47 (talk) 20:03, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- I don't have a lot to say this discussion, yet I do agree with Ss112 in this topic. Khalid haven't done too much yet to have this article as a FLC page, so there's no reason for doing this at this point. And no, Ss112, I don't have any intention in make Khalid's discography page my "ownership", so I fully agree with you about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Certificationsaccess (talk • contribs) 22:05, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- In case you have plans to nominate it then I’ll refrain. It’s not ready for a nomination yet anyway, I’ll try to work on the lead section a bit.—NØ 11:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- The way I see it, myself and Certificationsaccess have worked on this article far more than any other single editor, and honestly, if anybody were going to nominate it, at this point in time, it should be either of us. That's not me saying it's ours, but that's just the way it's happened over the past couple of years that Khalid has been active. However, even in the absence of that, I don't know if it's particularly appropriate for someone else to step in and make it theirs because we haven't done so (at least, yet—I can't speak for Certificationsaccess). Technically nobody can stop you from doing what you want to do, and I don't know if my objection will further motivate you to go ahead and do it regardless. I'm just trying to raise an objection to this type of thing as civilly as possible. I don't wish to have an argument about it here or anywhere, because clearly you've got your eye on it. This is not about you specifically, this is just one of the first times I have seen a user propose this kind of thing on an article I've watched. Ss112 10:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)