Talk:Khmuic languages

Latest comment: 9 years ago by Stevey7788 in topic "Pramic"

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Lua' is on the iso 639-3 chopping block. see http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/cr_files/2016-010.pdf

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What about the Tin language (group)? Jørgen Rischel writes "The Tin language has split into two dialect clusters, Prai and Mal? - fnielsen 22:59, 22 November 2005 (UTC) Tin or T'in is an alternate name given to both Mal and Prai. There shouldn't be a need to add it to the Khmuic page.Bluethailand (talk) 02:14, 15 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

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The following content added by 202.62.104.17 is interesting, but contains many uncited claims and may be original research. — Stevey7788 (talk) 05:59, 4 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Their languages belong to the Khmuic language family, which is a branch of the Austro-Asiatic language family. Most scholars agree that the Khmuic languages are part of the Mon–Khmer branch of the Austro-Asiatic family, but the validity of the Mon–Khmer branch has recently been called into question.[1]

If we are carefully consider various aspects about Khmuic, it should not be grouped into Mon-Khmer language family, it should be categorized as another separated language family. Khmuic and Mon have some resemble words because Mon people are influenced by Khmuic culture in the earliest century of their arriving in the west of the present day of Myanmar. During that time Khmuic people had already inhabited in the Indo-China Peninsular for many thousands of years. After Mons adopted Hinduism and Buddhism it made them more educated, more developed and more prosperous than Khmu. That is why some historians, ethnologists and archeologists misunderstand that Khmu and Mon are the same ethnic, the same language and that they migrated from India around 300BC. In fact saying that Mon people migrated from India around 300BC is still not clear. Some archeologists and historian believed that Mon may have inhabited in the south of China to the central part of Indo-China Penicular with the Khmu from the stone age. And then the Mon were separated into two groups. One group slowly migrated to the eastern of present day Myanmar and another group migrated from the area to the northern part of present day India. Because of penetration of Aryan people thru the northern part of India it made Mon people migrated to the western part of present day Myanmar around 300BC.

According to the writing "The Early History of the Mons" written by Sudara Suchaxaya said that in the beginning the Mon people settled in the area between the lower Salween and Sittang rivers, and established the kingdom called Suvannabhumi, which is mentioned in the early Indian literatures and Chinese records. According to the chronicles, the Mons were the people who constructed the Swedagon Pagoda in Rangoon about 2,540 years ago. However, what is obvious is that the Mons introduced Buddhism into Burma for the first time. In the third century B.C. according to the chronicles, Suthammavadi or Thaton, the center of the Mons at the time, had close contacts with India particularly during the time of King Asoka, who sent missionaries called Sona and Uttara to Suwannabhumi.

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  1. ^ Sidwell, Paul (2009). Classifying the Austroasiatic languages: history and state of the art. Munich: Lincom Europa.

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Gérard Diffloth (p.c.) says that Mlabri-Pram in Sidwell (2014) may actually constitute a separate branch of Austroasiatic, which he calls "Pramic". — Stevey7788 (talk) 16:30, 29 May 2015 (UTC)Reply