Talk:Kingsley Kennerley

GA Review

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Nominator: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 17:26, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: WikiOriginal-9 (talk · contribs) 14:16, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Comments:

• We could probably upload a non-free image of him since he is deceased but I understand if you don't want to do that. Some people are hesitant to upload non-free images.

• I've uploaded several in the past. If I find a good image I'll add one but the online ones all seem to be watermarked and many of the offline ones I've seen are not very good quality scans.

• Remove stub tag.
• "nominally attending" I'm not 100% sure what that means.

• Amended.

• "but he then got a night-shift job" change got to something else?

• Is "took" OK?

That works. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:43, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

• "when he lot that job" change to lost

• Amended.

• "garage firm" Does that have a specific meaning or does it just mean the firm was based out of his garage?

• I amended this after looking at some more soures.

• "was runner-up in the Empire Amateur Billiards Championship" already linked earlier

• Not sure if this was changed, but it only seems to be linked here and in the lead.

• "completing his national service" That's military right?

• Normally it is. I've wiki-linked the term, and will see if I can get any more info about what Kennerley's service consisted of.
• He was a munitions worker; I've added that with references.

• "The Billiard Player, official magazine of the Billiards Association and Control Council" I wonder if the "official magazine of the Billiards Association and Control Council" part shouldn't be placed earlier in the article where the The Billiard Player was first mentioned.

• Done.

• "With the revival of snooker in 1968–69" How did it get revived? What happened to it?

• I've expanded on this - which shoudl help non-snooker-fans!

• "knockout tournament" link that to Single-elimination tournament if that's what it means.
• "Round-robin handicap tournament" link to Round-robin tournament
• Change "Tournament Not Held" to "Tournament not held" four times in the timeline section.
• Also change "Not Held" to "Not held" twice.

• Amended per the four points above.

• Are all the tournaments in the table cited in the body?

• They weren't, so I've added references to the tables.

• In lead: " but making the championship record break of 472/" Remove /

• Done.

• Body doesn't say where he died.

• Added.

• Any more personal or later life? Probably couldn't find anything?

• No, his obituary in Snooker Scene makes a passing reference that after his first heart attack, he "derived the bulk of his income from a job unconnected with the game" without further details, and I didn't find any other soures.

• Some of the stuff like "Birmingham Gazette" in the reference section could probably be linked

• Done.

Spot-checks:

• "Billiards Expert". Evening Sentinel. Stoke-on-Trent. 9 February 1936
  • Looks good.

• "Birmingham Man as Billiards favourite". Evening Despatch. Birmingham. 6 March 1936
  • The article says "One of the spectators at the final, Mr. J.C. Pitchford, employed Kennerley, who had relevant experience, as an engineer in his garage firm Richard Lloyd." but I don't see in the ref where it says it was an engineering firm or that he had relevant experience?

• • Amended the text as mentioned above.
    • Maybe I'm missing it but I still don't see in the sources where it says it was an engineering firm? Is it in the offline source? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 13:30, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

• • Everything else for that ref looks good.

• "Kingsley Kennerley's Fine work". Evening Despatch. Birmingham. 30 August 1939
  • Looks good

• "Snooker". The Glasgow Herald. 13 May 1954
  • Article says "Kennerley won both his qualifying matches and joined the 1954/1955 News of the World Snooker Tournament" but ref just mentions one person he beat?

• • The Times source had the other reult, but I've changed it to a sure that verifies all of the details (including that there were three players in the qualifying competition)

• "UK Championship History". World Billiards. Archived from the original on 5 January 2021
  • Looks good.

• Draper, Roger (28 October 1980). "Davis so quick to make an impression". Coventry Evening Telegraph
  • Looks good.

• Greaves, Paul (15 March 1982). "It's that man Davis again". Birmingham Evening Mail
  • Looks good.

Great research! Nice article. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 14:16, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

• Many thanks, WikiOriginal-9. Hopefully I've addressed your points above. Let me know about anything else that is required. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

  Everything looks good now. The only thing left is a comment I just made above "Maybe I'm missing it but I still don't see in the sources where it says it was an engineering firm? Is it in the offline source?" ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 13:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

  WikiOriginal-9, yes, but I've now added the clipping for this article ("Billiards champion married"), which mentions "Richard Lloyd and Co., the Birmingham engineering firm". Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

  Looks good. Nice work! ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:57, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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