Talk:Kingston Fossil Plant coal fly ash slurry spill/GA1
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Reviewer: Femkemilene (talk · contribs) 14:16, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
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1. Well-written: | ||
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. | I think the prose can be improved in a few location. While some effort has been done to explain jargon, i still find it difficult to read some sentences.
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1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. | lede: The lead should be expanded. Mentioning of the clean-up, a process that I see has taken around 7 years, should be mentioned. Two paragraphs should be sufficient. I think it would be helpful to mention the country in which the spill took place in the first of second sentence. The information about the number of deaths should be included in the lede as well.
layout I find the structure of the article quite vague. the Deepwater horizon oil spill has a good example of a clear structure for an spill. I think that a section with consequences would be quite good (subsections health and environment?). Part of the information under the vague section title 'Details' might be transferred there. You might also want to make a section called: cause of spill. The biggest point for improvement in the response section is that it's too detailed. You can consider using some subsections to make it easier to read, as well as summarizing it. The article reads a lot like "He said, she said".
Two more small points about the layout: It is not clear to me why the paragraph about environmental racism is in the legal action section. If there was concrete legal action, please specify. If not, you might want to move it to cleanup.
You have two single-sentence paragraphs in the article, which is discouraged in the MOS. You might want to expand the sentence about fish with the effect on bugs and swallows that the EPA mentions. Femke Nijsse (talk) 13:22, 18 June 2019 (UTC) | |
2. Verifiable with no original research: | ||
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. | Almost compliant. Sources 14, 38, 44, 48 and 56 miss essential information (author/publisher, title, date). Femke Nijsse (talk) 13:49, 18 June 2019 (UTC) | |
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). | I've done done a full check on this, but I checked the source after the sentence:
Now that the archiving has been done (yaay), I found 4 statements that are not properly supported from a sample of about 15. This is too high and I would like to request you check other sources as well.
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2c. it contains no original research. | ||
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. | Did that copyright check and apart from the quotes (that have been used a bit too much), nothing came up. | |
3. Broad in its coverage: | ||
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. | It is not entirely up-to-date. Please go over the article and check whether things have been updated since 2008. For example
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3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). | The response section goes in unnecessary detail and the structure of the different paragraphs is unclear. One of the paragraphs is too long. It is probably best to decrease the amount of quotes, as this is not a newspaper article. | |
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. | Some small comments.
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5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. | ||
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: | ||
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. | ||
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. | ||
7. Overall assessment. |
- Response from nominator - sorry I've been a little late to respond. I've been a bit busy, but I will start looking at the reviewer's suggestions and making improvements. Bneu2013 (talk) 08:02, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
- With the review starting months and months after nomination, of course I don't expect you to be able to have a lot of time immediately. Could you indicate how much time you need to fix the issues? 7 days is the default timing to finish a review, and then 7 days for the review to be put on hold, but if you need an extra week (or two), I will grant you that. Femke Nijsse (talk) 14:45, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
- Femkemilene- I should be able to have it done in the next 7 days. I have already started. Bneu2013 (talk) 17:42, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
- With the review starting months and months after nomination, of course I don't expect you to be able to have a lot of time immediately. Could you indicate how much time you need to fix the issues? 7 days is the default timing to finish a review, and then 7 days for the review to be put on hold, but if you need an extra week (or two), I will grant you that. Femke Nijsse (talk) 14:45, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
- Cool. I'll review the improved sections in more detail as soon as you've finished them (as I've just done with the lede). Femke Nijsse (talk) 18:27, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
- I've finally finished the review. There is quite a lot to do still, with many of the sources not completely checking out. I'll put the article on hold. To summarize, the most important things to do: condense the response section by removing some citations, check a large part of the sources, read through the article to see where updating in necessary (sometimes as simple as putting things in the past tense, sometimes requires new sources). Femke Nijsse (talk) 19:48, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- Cool. I'll review the improved sections in more detail as soon as you've finished them (as I've just done with the lede). Femke Nijsse (talk) 18:27, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
I've decided to fail the nomination . The article was close to meeting the criteria and I do hope it will get renominated after the last points have been solved and a final check on checking recent events has been done as well. The article has improved a lot, thanks for your hard work! Do consider reviewing two (or one) articles yourself as well. Not only will you help tackle the backlog, you might also learn something from taking this different role in the process. Femke Nijsse (talk) 15:52, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- I strongly apologize, but unusual circumstances arose that did not allow for me to be as active as I expected. I expected to be able to improve the article more. Bneu2013 (talk) 03:12, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Real life can be quite hectic unfortunately. I really hope that when time allows, you further improve the article, because I want to see it as a good article and it's not far from that level. You can renominate the article whenever you want; there is no minimum time between nominations. You can tempt me to do the second review as well by reviewing one of two other articles in the GAN page. Femke Nijsse (talk) 07:49, 8 July 2019 (UTC)