Talk:Kiritsubo Consort
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Requested move
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The result of the proposal was move to Kiritsubo Consort. JPG-GR (talk) 00:37, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Lady Kiritsubo (mother of Hikaru Genji) is a second class concubine of Emperor. She is not Empress. Generally she is called Kiritsubo no Koui (2nd class concubine at Kiritsubo). So I propose change of article name and its move.--Stella maris (talk) 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Wikipedia does not use the romanization "koui"; it would be "kōi." For reference, the article in the Japanese Wikipedia is at 桐壺更衣. Fg2 (talk) 20:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, it is. I changed Requested move to Kiritsubo no Kōi. --Stella maris (talk) 14:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- [ADDITION]: In Japanese, /oo/, /ō/, and /ou/ are clearly distinguished. /おお/, /おー/, /おう/ are correspondent scripts in Japanese. And Ja-Wikipedia uses these distinctions. Look at 桐壺更衣, you can see that (きりつぼのこうい) is written. Your point is just local rule of en-wikipedia, not rule in ja-wikipedia (However, this is problem in En-Wikipedia, so I agree with your comment.) --Stella maris (talk) 15:53, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- It's not a problem with En-Wikipedia, but a shortcoming of the most common romanization system in English (which is also used by En-Wikipedia). For more info, please see WP:MOS-JA. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:42, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
- The most recent full translation (by Royall Tyler, 2003) uses Kiritsubo Consort. This is preferable to using a Japanese rank untranslated; we are intended for English speakers, and they will probably search for that phrase. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:40, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
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Requested move 7 July 2024
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Kiritsubo Consort → Consort Kiritsubo – I think if we are to go with the Anglicized form of the name, then "Consort Kiritsubo" would be the more naturally sound option. There is also precedent per WP:CONSISTENT: Lady Fujitsubo (instead of Fujitsubo Lady), Consort Kang (instead of Kang Consort), etc. Keivan.fTalk 20:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:50, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose; the reversed form does not scan for me, and I could not find any use of "Consort Kiritsubo" on Google or Google Books (0 hits). Dekimasuよ! 14:22, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject Literature, WikiProject Fictional characters, and WikiProject Japan have been notified of this discussion. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:51, 14 July 2024 (UTC)