Talk:Kiss (band)/GA1

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GA Reassessment

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As part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles' Project quality task force ("GA Sweeps"), all old good articles are being re-reviewed to ensure that they meet current good article criteria (as detailed at WP:WIAGA.) I have determined that this article needs some work to meet current criteria, outlined below:

• There are many (clearly) unsourced statements that need to be verified, among them:
  • "In early January 1973, the group added lead guitarist Ace Frehley. According to the book Kiss & Tell by Ace Frehley's former best-friends, Gordon G.G. Gebert and Bob McAdams (who accompanied Ace Frehley to the audition) the eccentric Frehley impressed the group with his first audition, although he showed up wearing two different sneakers (one red and one orange) and began warming up on his guitar while another guitarist was being auditioned by the band. A few weeks after Frehley joined, the Wicked Lester name was dropped and the band became Kiss."
  • "None of these rumors have any basis in fact, and the band has consistently denied them.[citation needed]"
  • "Kiss's first tour started on February 5, 1974 in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, at the Northern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium. The band’s self-titled debut album, Kiss, was released on February 18. Casablanca and Kiss promoted the album heavily throughout the spring and summer of 1974. On February 19, the band performed "Nothin' to Lose," "Firehouse," and "Black Diamond" for what would become their first national television appearance, on ABC's Dick Clark's In Concert (aired March 29). On April 29, the band performed "Firehouse" on The Mike Douglas Show. This broadcast included Simmons's first televised interview, a conversation with Douglas in which Simmons declared himself "evil incarnate," eliciting titters from an uncomfortable and largely confused studio audience. Fellow guest Totie Fields remarked that it would be humorous if, beneath all the make-up, Simmons was "just a nice Jewish boy." Simmons deftly parried this remark with neither a confirmation nor denial, by saying simply, "You should only know." To which she responded, "I do. You can't hide the hook," a reference to Simmons's nose."
  • "With Hotter Than Hell quickly dropping off the charts, Kiss was pulled from their tour to quickly record a new album. Casablanca head Neil Bogart stepped in to produce the next album, trading in the murky, distorted sound of Hotter Than Hell for a cleaner and slightly poppier sound. Dressed To Kill, released on March 19, 1975, fared slightly better commercially than Hotter Than Hell. It also contained what would later become the band's trademark song, "Rock and Roll All Nite" (sample (info))."
  • "By late 1975, Casablanca was nearly bankrupt and Kiss was in danger of losing their record contract. Both parties desperately needed a commercial breakthrough if they were to survive. That breakthrough came in an unlikely form - a double live album."
  • "Simmons and Stanley own Criss's makeup designs (as well as Frehley's), so there was no way for Criss or Frehley to prevent this."
  • All the above are just from the first part of the article; there are many more that need to be taken care of.
• One or two-sentences groupings scattered throughout the article are not paragraphs (they need a minimum of three sentences)—these quasiparagraphs need to be cut, expanded, or merged.
• File:KISSCollage2-1000.jpg, File:KISS RockandRollAllNite.ogg, File:KISS Beth.ogg, File:KISS Crazy Crazy Nights.ogg, and File:KISS Unholy.ogg all have exceptionally weak, biolerplate fair use rationales and fail WP:NFCC. There's no critical commentary that supports the inclusion of these samples in the article.
• There is information in the lead (records sold, etc.) that is not in the body. The trivia-filled "pop culture" section needs to be trashed, and a proper legacy section incorporated.

I am putting the article on hold for seven days awaiting significant work on the issues above. Please keep me appraised on this page. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 17:29, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to reassess this article. It is in need of a clean-up. I'll try to get it up to standards and welcome anyone who would like to work with me. J04n(talk page) 11:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

• As the above user has informed me that he will be unable to continue working on the article and no one else has stepped up, I am now delisting. The article can be renominated at WP:GAN any time, but I strongly encourage improving the article and consulting the above first. Take questions or comments to my talk page, please. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 20:21, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.