Talk:Klara Prast

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Klara is not notable. There is no real world information on her aside from the fact that she is the new member of the group. She has only appeared in one arc, and one issue of another series. Hardly notable. Rau's Speak Page 05:40, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

• Look, I don't know what little vendetta you have against this character is about, maybe it's cause you like to claim you're an athiest and clearly she's a religious character or what, but saying that she's not a notable character is a load. The fact that she is now considered a member of the team makes her important enough to be given note for a page. I'll give you the character of Adam Mitchell from Doctor Who as an example. He is the most insignificant person to ever be called a companion in the history of that show, only appearing in two episodes of the entire show, yet he is still considered a companion and because of that, he has his own page. Same goes for Astrid Peth and Grace Holloway. The amount of time that the have appeared is insignificant, is not important, it is the content in which they appear that is, and the fact that she's a member of the team makes her notable. Also saying there is not enough content on her to sustain a page is completely untrue. I managed to fill up that page to a perfectly acceptable degree, with references, that many other comic book characters on this site wish they could have that amount of content on their page. So your claims she is not notable is completely false, and I will continue to revert her page back until you can offer some actual proof that she is not notable besides your personal word.69.138.210.170 (talk) 09:52, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

One, WP:Pokémon test. Two, WP:Civility. Three, WP:NOTABLE. I said real world content, not fictional content. Are there reviews of the character? No. Is she mentioned in interviews? No. She is not notable. Also, wait for consensus before reverting a contested action. Also, only one of those is above Start-Class. Rau's Speak Page 11:49, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

That civility thing is a bit presumptive on your part with that person don't you think? Anyway, I don't see the relevance of throwing the pokemon article at him/her, since we're just talking abbut one more person on a team, not the hundreds of new pokemon that get added with each new game that comes out. The notability thing doesn't really help your argument either, because that person also added a whole lot of detail that was fully fleshed out in the issues she was in, something that article calls for to make them notable. Also, he/she had a link to an interview that had Whedon talk about Klara right there in the article, something else you said that is needed for her. It just seems more like you did not look into what this person did and just wanted to go about keeping her personal article merged for some reason. I'm not saying this as a bad thing, just from what patterns I'm seeing here, that is what I can only infer. As far as reviews that include there character, they're all over the place. You can see her mentioned in all of the issue reviews for the issues she appeared in [1](I'm not going to link each one for you, there's that many plus mentions in other articles on that site), as well as [2], [3], [4], a nice little review of her here [5], and [6], and really, I could go on to find plenty of other reviews that mention or talk about her through a simple search. There's plenty out there to justify her having an article, it just seems like you didn't care to look, again not bashing, just going from what I've seen.76.214.173.163 (talk) 15:34, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

One, the civility thing is justified. Two, those links only mention her once each, in passing. And one of them does not even mention her at all. Therefore, the character lacks real world content, which is required for notability. Also, the Pokemon thing makes sense if you click the link. Finally, I waited three days for that ip to respond before reverting back to the redirect. Rau's Speak Page 15:53, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

They all mention her in some way, hence why I put them up, maybe you didn't look hard enough. I don't know if this is a fact of you not clarifying or now just trying to backtrack, but there is real world content of her, again, if you just do a simple search, you'll see that. And at least some of those articles go into detail about her, which is what you seem to be aiming for, not just an "in passing" mention. Or if you even look at the article the original editor put in the article. Whedon may have been vague about her, but it's clear that because of how things played out, he was talking directly about her. And also, I did read the pokemon article, hence why I said it didn't fit. Maybe you need to look into the civility thing since you seem to be making quite a few presumptions about me yourself. I don't about the original poster either, maybe he/she isn't able to get to an internet connection or something, but that doesn't mean someone else can't come along and refute your claims, which I did, so her page should be left alone, since you've yet to give anyone any justifiable claims to the otherwise that can't be backed up by anything other than your interpretation of the rules.76.214.173.163 (talk) 16:03, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Not one of your links goes into detail on the character. A reviewer saying "Oh, I like her" is not going into detail. One mention for most of them, none for one of them. I searched the links for her name and read the surrounding text. As for Pokemon, the article claims that one articles existence is justified by another's, that is exactly what was claimed here. That is not just cause. The link makes sense. And I am being civil, please explain to me how I am not. Rau's Speak Page 21:50, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Clearly, it has been over a month to retaliate -- Klara is here to stay, and remains as an official member of the Runaways. You are outvoted. All, besides your fine points, have agreed the article should stay, especially as it will elaborate more on her for the coming series; just today I saw a Terry Moore interview stating he will be elaborating Klara (specifically, he had said he'd elaborate on whatever character Whedon came up with). Sυρєrıor ^{(Reply!,Contribs)} 21:01, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

It has not been over a month to retaliate. It's not even twenty days. And just because I am outvoted does not mean I am wrong. Wikipedia is not a democracy. And just because she will keep reappearing does not mean that there will be anymore real world information. All that means is that there will be more plot to condense. Rau's Speak Page 02:20, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

When I say its been over a month, I mean its been over a month debate upon this issue. No, Wikipedia is not a democracy, but you can be outvoted when others agree upon other conflicting guidlines. Open your eyes, as she keeps reappearing, clearly there will be more real world information. Whats the difference between hers and any other members' articles. State them.Sυρєrıor ^{(Reply!,Contribs)} 14:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

I think she is notable. I'm not sure what designates notability enough to warrant an article, but this character certainly needs to be reflected SOMEWHERE on Wikipedia. Considering the 'Runaways' article is cluttered enough, and there is no 'list of minor characters' for her to be put on, her own article makes sense. Not to mention, she seems like a unique and wonderful character to me. Tyciol (talk) 00:29, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Chloroplast

Her name seemed a tad odd and finally I remembered this term from studying botany, so I made a note of it in the article. I hope this isn't too presumptuous, but it seems a pretty obvious link. It would be interesting to see if it has been confirmed by the authors when they briefly introduced her. Tyciol (talk) 00:35, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey Tyciol. Just wanted to note here that I agree with you. It may be presumptious, but you are being bold, so press on. The proper thing to do about said presumptiousness, is to cite references. Since you did not, I have added the tag calling for it. Angryredplanet (talk) 05:38, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

October 1974

"...The character first appeared in volume 2, #28 (October 1974)..."

Approximately thirty years before the start of the series? Noooooo, I don't think so. --76.68.129.201 (talk) 21:40, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

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