Talk:Knife making
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Merge with Knives
editNo Merge. While still a stub that not many have adopted, Knifemaking is a whole subject in itself, and should not be combined with the somewhat bloated knife article. It would contain in greater detail subjects touched on in the knives article. Just look at the Basic outline I built, and I have never actually made a knife, though I know some of the theory.--Knife Knut 15:54, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
No merge. Knifemaking is a subject of tremendous scope, depth, and breadth, worthy of remaining a separate subject. It may be that its inclusion under "hobbies" is the problem. It is also a professional craft and an art. It's history is arguably as old as human history, arguably pre-dating "humanity," if one buys into the use of tools by pre-human ancestors contributing to the rise of humankind.
Splitting off handle woods into new article
editSince there are so many, and the formatting is not compatible with the rest of the article, I am splitting off the section into Knife handle woods.
This craft is properly called "knife making," and not "knifemaking." Even though some knife publications use the term, "knifemaking," making a compound word out of the already serviceable terms "knife making, " is just bad writing. Moreover, it corrupts the language with sloppy new jargon. --Sam 00:54, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Making knives and 420J2
editI like keeping "knifemaking" -- or "knife making," lest I contribute to corrupting the language -- separate, as long as readers can find it. E.g., the current trend in "folders" is considered an artistic and stylistic "movement" by many in the trade. Or, consider that as many top American knife companies collaborate with manufacturers and artisans in the venerated Seki City, Japan, even a few historical aspects seem appropriate.
One suggestion: tweak the existing stainless steel page to include blade attributes, then link to it. Similarly, scale materials don't need to be detailed. I believe the key word in all this is "making." The process should be emphasized.
Lastly, if I may pick a nit ;-), the statement "420J2: Low carbon...Used in poor quality knives..." is a little misleading. 420J2 is indeed a cheaper primary blade steel used in low-end knives. However, 420J2 is also used in high-quality knives to clad high-carbon steels, e.g. VG-10, making them stronger and less likely to corode. Check out the Kershaw Nakamura. I have one and will vouch for its quality. :-) Todd Johnston 00:49, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Page Setup
editI enjoy this page and the respect it gives to the art of knifemaking but I wonder if we could consolidate the list of knife handle materials it is not very aesthetic. Junolupus 01:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
- This page is pretty terrible. I appreciate the effort that someone put into it to list all of these things, but that is all this page is: a really long and useless list. If no one objects, I will try to re-write this as a readable article, but it will probably only be a few paragraphs long. I don't think that it is neccesary to list every single possible material that a knife can be made of, rather highlight some of the categories and the pros and cons of each one. This article does not even explain knife making really. I know next to nothing about knife making, so I will need some input. Patrick Berry 23:31, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- I am trying to complete a major revamp of this page currently and any advice from wiki veterans will definitely be considered.Junolupus 22:55, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Merge with Bladesmithing
editSee the discussion at Talk:Bladesmith#Proposal to merge Bladesmith and Knife making. Wizard191 (talk) 16:36, 26 October 2009 (UTC)