Talk:Kogal

I think this page should be expanded into a larger one called "Yankee (Japanese)" with kogyaru as a subtopic. I will get on this later if nobody else does. -Naif

I doubt some of the claims in this particular article. Kogyaru and its ensuing Kogyarugo, kogal language, was big in the 90s, but the fad is on the decline, contrary to what the article says.

Five years ago Kogyaru, ganguro, etc and their like were seen in Tokyo, but not as plentiful these days. - eDs

Removal?

"They are generally not seen in high-end department stores or in nature"

This senetence first appeared in Naif's edit on 1st February 2005, I'm assuming that it was meant jokingly. I was going to remove it in the interest of keeping the article entirely factual, but since it's a matter of opinion: what do people think, should it stay or should it go?

~Mullet

This is now a defunct term for a defunct slice of Japanese society. Rarely will you see them anymore in Tokyo - eDs.

just because you don't see them in Tokyo doesn't mean they don't exist. Any time I'm waiting for the train around Osaka on weekends I will see kogyaru around. Especially around Shinsaibashi. 210.168.185.69 17:11, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Kogal not Yankee

or more properly Yanki.

As the arictle more or less gets right Kogals are high school aged girls who tend to wear desinger clothes, alot of makeup etc. The style of miniskits, fashiable high=heeled boots of the young women of Tokyo was called the "Gal" style. When their juniors began to emulate them, they were referred to as KoGals (eg Neko = cat, Koneko = kitten)

The Japanese wiki page claims the term 'ko' comes from "High Schooler" (kokousei), not "little" as in 'koneko'. Identity0 08:47, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Yanki style is much more of a non-urban kind of thing. It's analogous the white-trash, hippy, greaser style in the US. Muscle cars are very Yanki, for example. They have very little in common except for the fact that they both tend to die their hair that reddish orange color.

Origin of term

As I understand it, the term "Gal" was originally applied to the fashion style of young urban women who wore expensive designer fashions, after the english word Gal. A KoGal is a young girl who emulated this style. Naturally the teenagers took this look and ran with it. The "kōkō" etymology is incorrect I think. I'll try to find some documentation either way. Axamoto 21:14, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

I think there is confusion

Why is the term yankee and kogal linked? Yankiis and ganguros are completely different subcultures. Yankii would refer to a member in a Bōsōzoku.

Picture of Japanese Girls

Why is there just a picture of random Japanese schoolgirls? That doesn't do a good job of illustrating the fashion style described here. You guys can do better than that. --70.142.55.96 (talk) 11:55, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Flappers.

Would it be okey to add that Kogals are like the modern-day Japanese equivelant of the American Flappers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.77.255 (talk) 12:26, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

The Modern Girl is a more direct Japanese equivalent to a flapper. There are several intermediate steps between kogal and flapper, so it's a bit of a stretch. The flapper was a reaction to the grimly politicized New Woman, but the issue of feminism vs partying down doesn't really arise in the Japanese context. Kauffner (talk) 06:10, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Types of Kogals.

Ganjiro: Very pale. Gonguro: Tanned. Yamanba: Super tanned with panda makeup & rhinestones. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.77.255 (talk) 05:48, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Example farm moved here

I moved these examples off the main article as they just discuss media involving Japanese high school girls in general and not the kogal style or culture. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:31, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

There are various Japanese girls' music bands such as AKB48, no3b, Watarirouka Hashiritai, French Kiss, Not Yet, DiVA, Nogizaka46, Scandal, etc. where the girls perform dressed as school-girls.

A number of beauty contests are held in Japan, where only high-school girls can take part. Many of the girls who won these contests have later gone to become famous teen models.

• Various Japanese animation series (both print and animated video) based on schoolgirls, such as Tenjho Tenge, First Love Limited, L DK, High School Girls, K-On!, Kin-iro Mosaic, Saekano: How to Raise a Boring Girlfriend, Choir!, Zero In, Demon King Daimao, Girl Friend, Corpse Princess, School Days, Hitohira, Wake Up, Girls!, Sailor Moon, Pani Poni, Kashimashi: Girl Meets Girl, Mirai Millennium etc.

• Various video games developed by PlayStation etc., where characters of schoolgirls are involved, like To Heart and To Heart 2.

• Various Japanese movies based on school girls, such as "Ao haru ride", "L DK", "Say I Love You", "Schoolgirl Complex", "The Machine Girl", "Yo-Yo Sexy Girl Cop", etc.

• A photo series, called "Last Loose Socks", on Japanese high school girls by Akira Gomi.
• Kogals appear in the movie Kill Bill: Volume 1 (2003).
• Episode six in the third season of BBC's Japanorama documentary series covers kogal, ganguro, and yamanba "bad girl" culture.
• A Japanese television drama titled Gal Circle prominently features gals.
• Usamaru Furuya's manga Short Cuts (1998-1999).
• In Detective Conan, there's a case (manga volume 29, anime episodes 217-218) in which four ganguro girls are severely beaten by a man for wearing boots similar to those of the girl who accidentally killed his son. The fourth girl is actually the culprit and ends up bludgeoned to death. A parallel is made with young female delinquent schoolgirls, known as Sukeban, since according to the storyline there was a similar case involving Sukeban 20 years ago.
• In the anime Sgt. Frog, The character Angol Mois disguises herself as a Kogal when out in public.

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