Talk:KoreKorea

Risky Business Kiribati source praises Korean seafarers

Due to the Wikipedia policy regarding exceptional claims, I believe that it is in accordance with Wikipedia's policy for this article to not include the claim in Risky Business Kiribati that local (i-Kiribati) seafarers, police men and Taiwanese men are reported to rape while the Korean seafarers are not reported to rape as told by accounts by ainen matawa in that PDF document. The Wikipedia policy about exceptional claims tells editors to be wary of sources with an apparent conflict of interest, and the ainen matawa have an apparent conflict of interest to portray Korean seafarers who are their main customers or their only mentioned customers as reported by other sources as the good guys in their accounts of them. As far as I can recall at the moment, the Risky Business Kiribati source is unique in this good guy versus bad guy rapist claim, so I think that this article should wait until other reports substantiate this claim before including it. For this reason, I am taking out the claims cited to Risky Business Kiribati that locals and policemen are reported to rape the ainen matawa from the Wikipedia article until further confirmation from another source.--Ephert (talk) 14:22, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Article name and wording

Shouldn't "ainen matawa" be the article name instead of KoreKorea? Also the way the article is written currently kind of makes it seem like there are only Korean customers, which isn't the case8ya (talk) 00:33, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

References

@8ya: The document you reference above has a footnote on page 31 that says "... The term Korekorea is a reference to women who associate with Korean men – the word did not exist in the I-Kiribati language 10 years ago." On the same page that document uses "Te korekorea" and says the term applies to women who have long term relationships with both Korean and Taiwanese [fisher]men. Clearly, from this usage, "Korekorea" is an I-Kiribati language word, not an English one. The term "ainen matawa" is also an I-Kiribati language phrase. Wikipedia guidelines are to use English language titles that are commonly recognizable to the English reader. This article's lead sentence starts by saying "KoreKorea was a term used for ....", yet the rest of the article is devoted to discussing what would appear to be teenage prostitution with foreign fishing boat crew in Kiribati. My expectation for an article starting off like this is a learned discussion of the term "KoreKorea", which appears to be spelt without the second capital "K" in the I-Kiribati language, its origins and usage in English and its Etymology as well as its meaning and deprecated usage and replacement by the term "ainen matawa". Instead, we get a coat-rack of an article about Kiribati prostitution. Neither "ainen matawa" nor "KoreKorea" are English terms and both appear to carry some degree of cultural ostracism so might be contrary to neutality in titles. What this article should probably be called is Prostitution in Kiribati, which is currently a redirect to Prostitution in Oceania § Kiribati. Then the meaning and application of both the terms "ainen matawa" and "Korekorea", as well as perhaps the misspelt word "Korakorea", can be discussed as these may apply to the real subject that the article seems to be talking about: [teenage] prostitution in Kiribati. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 14:41, 18 April 2022 (UTC)