Talk:Korgoth of Barbaria
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Don Martin?
editDoes anyone else notice a similarity in styles in this cartoon to Don Martin's? I am absolutely certain I saw at least one Martin comic with a character who looks extremely similar to Korgoth, though I can't recall what, specifially. Not to mention various other characters.
Series?
editThis entry makes it sound like "Korgoth" is actually a series. A pilot episode has been made and shown, but that doesn't mean that there will be a series.
- All series begin as a pilot. Of course the pilot doesn't guarantee a series, but it does express intent. -- 67.78.133.90 15:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- It will become a series. Most (if not all) pilot episodes of Adult Swim programming have at least one season. -- dposse 19:41, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Definitely NOT "all." Saddle Rash and Welcome to Eltingville are a couple of unsold Adult Swim pilots. There's been a few others if you look on the Adult Swim page. True, chances of a series are good but not guaranteed. --MrBlondNYC 08:50, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Pretty dead in the water. The reason is that, like SciFi (now SYFY), Adult Swim changed its target demographic to lower-income SE USA (i.e. former Confederate) states. (I have seen the general reference to that audience change somewhere but someone else needs to locate the reference.) Based on the fare introduced in the last 2-3 years that target is seen as conservative, low-brow, and heavy stoners --whether they be Goth or Redneck. So of course a complex AD&D themed cartoon with lots of inside AD&D or fantasy book jokes is not going be built into a series.65.26.138.188 (talk) 09:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Similar to Thundarr how?
editI really don't see the similarity, aside from being "barbarians". Kolgarth approaches a level of bloodthirst and penchant for violence that even Conan would have trouble matching, while Thundarr never takes a life (granted that in Thudarr's era it was frowned on for cartoon characters to kill each other.) ---Jackel 17:54, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
- As Thundarr was also inspired by Conan the Barbarian, there is little similarity between Korgoth and Thundarr other than that connection; hence, listing Thundarr as a parody source for Korgoth was perhaps inaccurate. Luckily, someone already removed the misleading Thundarr tidbit. -- Flask 18:31, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, I did it myself actually. If someone can make a compelling case for the comparison, they can add it back.---Jackel 21:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Ah. Okay. Nice work. -- Flask 01:43, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well Thundarr and Korgoth share the similarity of being set in a post-apoclyptic future. Things such as a juke box are seen in the world of Korgoth (As well as the Statue of Liberty in the intro), so it shares that element. Wolfman Walt 03:01, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- I added the Thundarr reference back in because the opening is so similar - both have the world destroyed and then take place 1000 or so years in the future where magic exists as well as some remants of 'civilised society'. Thundarr is constantly fighting wizards who rule over certain areas and Korgoth fights a wizard in the only episode (pilot). While it does parody the sword and sorcery cartoon genre in general I feel that it is (so far) tied mostly to Thundarr because of the very similar backdrop.Olliegrind 14:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- I am adding Thundarr back in but will leave Conan. Conan is a medieval setting and Thundarr is post-apocolyptic - same as Korgoth. While having a show about a barbarian will have certain similarities to all barbarian characters, Thundarr seems like the one to mention since the setting is the same. Adult Swim appartently mentions Conan because a good deal of people don't know who Thundarr is. There are many incarnations of Conan (Live-action movies, 90's cartoon, comic book, etc), all of which vary in many ways so just comparing it to Conan in general does nothing more than say that he is a barbarian, which is fairly obvious.Olliegrind 20:08, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
- Conan does not have a medieval setting. It has an earlier Iron Age setting as far I can tell.24.47.151.201 (talk) 10:17, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- It depends on the region of Hyboria but the Robert E. Howard stories have many medieval touches. Aquilonia itself is pretty much high-medieval. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.153.230.66 (talk) 05:09, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- Conan does not have a medieval setting. It has an earlier Iron Age setting as far I can tell.24.47.151.201 (talk) 10:17, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- I am adding Thundarr back in but will leave Conan. Conan is a medieval setting and Thundarr is post-apocolyptic - same as Korgoth. While having a show about a barbarian will have certain similarities to all barbarian characters, Thundarr seems like the one to mention since the setting is the same. Adult Swim appartently mentions Conan because a good deal of people don't know who Thundarr is. There are many incarnations of Conan (Live-action movies, 90's cartoon, comic book, etc), all of which vary in many ways so just comparing it to Conan in general does nothing more than say that he is a barbarian, which is fairly obvious.Olliegrind 20:08, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
- Obviously Korgoth pulls from more than one source. Just as obviously Korgoth is more a parody of the Thundarr theme setting than Conan. I think we can mark down the graphic bloody violence to (1) AS broadcast standards allow PG-13 and R-rated material and (2) its a Parody! meaning of course that there is some radical exaggerations. They had to add graphic mayhem to produce parody since Thundarr and other barbarian cartoons already maxed out the violence to objects.
- On the other hand the introductory plot and subplot descriptions and complexity is definitely Conan. Also Conan is not free of the post-apocalyptic theme. While seldom mentioned and mainly only when referencing magical artifacts, the Hyperborean age is a successor age. Conan differs however in that tens of millenium have passed since the last complete apocolypse and almost no traces survive of that prior age. The medieval touches are alluded to but never fully identified as from a more recent partial apocalypse caused by wizards of an imperial or medieval level world civilization and a "magical nuclear winter". That is to say a few sub-topical nations did not totally collapse and kept some medieval tech. Apparently the barbarians lands were especially hard hit and they remember the more recent event in part via oral tradition which is why they all hate wizards from childhood.65.26.138.188 (talk) 10:13, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Berserk
editDon't know if it's worth mentioning in the main page, but I've noticed a LOT of similarity between Gatts/Guts from the Berserk_(manga)/Anime series, and Korgoth from the first episode. Especially with the extreme brutality of the first major scene of the show, where the main character unleashes a shocking ammount of violence in a midieval bar.
--71.100.183.31 01:24, 23 June 2006 (UTC)Testola
Quotes
editMight be nice If we had more quotes...like "Even in death a wizard is not to be trusted" or "I despie all wielders of the dark arts. Speaking of which, can you pass the gravy?". Or the whole "rainbow"speech David88 18:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC).
- More quotes?! Why don't we just get it over with and just post the entire script? -- GIR 06:58, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
-Changed quote "ABC. Not my flavour" - Korgoth to Specules, after defeating the bubble gum monster of Specules." TO: "ABC. Not my flavor" - Korgoth to Specules, after defeating the bubble gum monster of Specules." Reason being this is an American cartoon, not British/Canadian/etc
- Amen!
SOMEONE WACKED ALL THE QUOTES!! Barbarians!
I just wanted to add this
Scrotus: “You, You will regret what you have done this day.
I will make you regret ever being born.
Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb,
where it was warm, and safe, and wet.
I’m going to show you pain you never knew existed.
You’re going to see a whole no spectrum of pain, like a rainbow.”
Hargon: “You tell him, Scrotus.”
Scrotus: “But this rainbow, is not just like any other rainbow, it’s-“(Fight scene)
Bad news?/ Good News?
editAccording to the background painter for Korgoth, Adult Swim has not picked up the show. Read here. --Flask
It will begin this spring.71.206.136.69 09:54, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- o rly?68.252.95.232 05:11, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- It was supposed to 71.206.136.69 (talk) 02:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
According to rumors on the AS message board (take them as you will), AS ordered two story boards for Korgoth. They wanted to make it a series, and even scheduled a release. Then some higher up executive at Turner canned the series. I guess they thought there was too much sex and violence in Korgoth. That's why it seemed like the series was going to be made, then nothing. 147.155.182.23 (talk) 03:18, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
June or Sept?
editOkay, at time of post, the article has
- "The pilot episode first aired in the United States on June 3, 2006 at 12:30 AM (EST) on Adult Swim. "
in one place, and
- "The half-hour pilot aired on September 25th at 11:00PM EDT."
in another... so, which is it?
209.136.134.106 22:07, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
june, i remember watching it twice, the third and then that following saturday. 71.206.136.69 10:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
New Stories
edit[as] has ordered two new story boards. click here search for korgoth on the page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.136.69 (talk • contribs)
Korgoth looks...
edit...to have been influenced by Ralph Bakshi's film Wizards.Italic text' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.17.229.2 (talk) 19:25, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
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Possible green light by HBO Max?
editI know it was never announced, but even after so many years, what IF Korgoth was picked up for a full series on HBO Max?