Talk:Kronstadt rebellion

Resources

Hand-drawn map from Berkman's account of Kronstadt

Dropping some resources here, in case I don't have a chance to process them

• Kronstadt stories in the Bulletin of the Russian Information Bureau in the U.S., April 23, 1921
• Berkman's account

  Originals: Internet Archive, HathiTrust via Yale OCLC 43147802

  Transcriptions/formatting from: wikisource:The Kronstadt Rebellion (very bad machine translation), Dana Ward, Marxists.org

  Contains English translation of the Petropavlovsk resolution

• Facsimile of the Petropavlovsk resolution

image copyright research

Kronstadt uprising/mutiny: Кроншта́дтское восста́ние, Кронштадтский мяте́ж Kronstadt: Кронштадт, Кронштадтского Petropavlovsk (Петропавловск), Sevastopol (Севастополь) Oranienbaum (Ораниенбаум), Sestroretsk (Сестрорецк) Museum of Political History of Russia (ru)[1] for artillery discussion (above on talk page), caption credited ЦГАКФФД[2], not РГАКФД[3] MAMM/MDF Press photos in https://www.maryevans.com/search.php from Sueddeutsche Zeitung; TASS; Alamy aggregate; Getty; video Searched newspapers (tended not to have images, esp of Kronstadt), illustrated magazines (London only one with a spread), and major collections Viktor & Karl Bulla Background/more photos? [4][5] File:The bombardment of the Kronstadt forts.jpg: artillery facing left Destruction on the embankment in Kronstadt, carried out during the mutiny. 1921 Bull K.K. Headquarters of the Southern Group of the Kronstadt Front. 1920-1922. Bulla K.K. – maybe connected to 78391? Horsemen - participants in the suppression of the Kronstadt rebellion. 1921 Bull K.K. – Karl – eligible? Evacuation of the wounded from Oranienbaum after the fighting for the capture of the Kron fortress. Kronstadt front. Bulla K.K. Awarding the Orders of the Red Banner to the commissars who distinguished themselves near Kronstadt at the headquarters of the Kronstadt fortress. In the foreground P.V. Dybenko. 1921 Bull K.K. A group of fighters-workers of Petrograd who arrived at the Political Department of the Headquarters of the Southern Group to suppress the Kronstadt mutiny. 1921 Bull K.K. A crater from a shell that fell in the park during the suppression of the Kronstadt rebellion. 1921 Bull K.K. A group of members of the Political Department of the Headquarters of the Southern Group of Forces advancing on Kronstadt during the suppression of the Kronstadt rebellion. 1921 Bull K.K. A group of soldiers of the barrage detachment of the Northern Group of Forces on the ice of the Gulf of Finland during the suppression of the 1921 Kronstadt mutiny Bull K.K., in foreground, advancing – Karl – eligible? Arrangement of a dugout for the shells of the heavy battery of the 4th artillery division "M" at the position at Cape Dubki. 1921 Bull K.K. A group of fighters aimed at suppressing the Kronstadt rebellion at a halt in Martyshkino. 1921 Bull K.K., all sitting on snow A group of fighters and commanders of the 2nd Botalion of the Consolidated Regiment at the position of Art. Old Peterhof during the suppression of the Kronstadt rebellion. 1921 Bull K.K. http://collectiononline.polithistory.ru/entity/OBJECT/107677 Positions on the shore during the suppression of the White Guard mutiny in Kronstadt. 1921 Bull K.K.] A crater from a shell that fell at a meeting of Machine-gun courses on Narodny Prospekt in Oranienbaum during the Kronstadt mutiny. 1921 Bull K.K. – has writing on the back A crater from a shell that fell at a meeting of Machine-gun courses on Narodny Prospekt in Oranienbaum during the Kronstadt mutiny. 1921 Bull K.K. Observation post at positions near Kronstadt in the days of suppressing the White Guard revolt. 1921 Bull K.K. Observation post at positions near Kronstadt in the days of suppressing the White Guard revolt. 1921 Bull K.K. 2nd battery of the 4th artillery heavy battalion "M" in position near the village. Kaboshchkoe. 1921 Bull K.K., stubby, facing upper left 2nd battery of the 4th artillery heavy battalion "M" in position near the village. Kaboshchkoe. 1921 Bull K.K., open boxes Destruction on the streets of Kronstadt after the suppression of the White Guard rebellion. 1921 Bull K.K., hole in wall – duplicate of 53739 below Destruction on the streets of Kronstadt after the suppression of the White Guard rebellion. 1921 Bull K.K. – duplicate of 53740 below Credited to "Bulla" Tractor locomotive for the heavy battery of the 4th artillery battalion "M" and Dubki Manor. During the suppression of the Kronstadt rebellion. Sestroretsk, 1921 General view of the destroyed building, Kronstadt, 1921 The building of the former machine-gun courses destroyed by a shell, Oranienbaum, 1921 The destroyed building of the central library after the bombing, Kronstadt, 1921 Participants in the attack on Kronstadt, 1921, sitting on boxes Demolition engineers participating in the suppression of the counter-revolutionary 1921 Kronstadt rebellion credited to Bull/Булла Troops advancing on Kronstadt on the ice of the Gulf of Finland, 1921 Bull, in far distance A defensive detachment of the Northern group, which took part in the offensive on Kronstadt, 1921 Bull Cadets of the Children's Artillery School taking part in the suppression of the counter-revolutionary 1921 Kronstadt rebellion – credited to Bull 3rd battery of 4th artillery heavy battalion "M" in position near Dubki manor, 1921, facing right [6] Cadets of the 2 Soviet Moscow Infantry Courses who took part in the assault on Kronstadt, 1921 Bull Battery after taking the fortress, 1921 The passage across the ice of the Gulf of Finland of parts of the southern group to the assault on Kronstadt, 1921 The headquarters of the 2nd battalion of the consolidated regiment at the position of Stary Peterhof. Resting scouts. 1921 ? The chain of barrage detachments of the Northern group, storming Kronstadt. 1921, on snow, in distance Machine gunners of the Northern Group during the offensive on Kronstadt. 1921, on snow [7] The destroyed 6th state sawmill near the Kronstadt village in the Oranienbaum area. 1921 Bull Suppression of the counter-revolutionary insurrection in Kronstadt. 1921, throng of soldiers sitting and standing in snow Soldiers Suppression of the Kronstadt rebellion; on the negative - the offensive of the Red Army cavalry, on horseback in distance P.E.Dybenko and I.F. Fedko on the outskirts of the Kronstadt fortress. 1921 The assault on Kronstadt. Red Army troops on the ice of the Gulf of Finland (March 1921), running, from MAMM/MDF On ice with barbed wire barriers in foreground from MAMM/MDF On ice, walking to the right background from MAMM/MDF On ice, in near distance, walking to the right TASS Standing around artillery (facing background) with open ammo boxes from MAMM/MDF Pavel Dybenko - commander of the troops for the elimination of the Kronstadt rebellion, on horseback, from MAMM/MDF, also see Mary Evans 10047186 from Alexander Meledin Collection Negative number 1204 Awarding the Order of the Red Banner to the soldiers and commanders who participated in the suppression of the Kronstadt mutiny unknown Leaders (Dybenko) with maps: "Russian military commander Pavel Dybenko (3rd R) and his staff discuss the suppression of the Kronstadt Rebellion. Image from the Russian State Archive for Film and Photographic Documents." Artillery (long) facing upper left: "Artillery shells the rebels’ positions on Kotlin Island during the Kronstadt Rebellion. Image from the Central Archive. Reproduced by TASS" Ships Ship docked with various bridges: "Kronstadt. The Civil War. The Kronstadt rebellion. The uprising of the battleship "Petropavlovsk" and battleship "Sevastopol" sailors was the cause of the Kronstadt rebellion. Reproduction. Photo ITAR-TASS" Soldiers stand in line on a ship: "Soldiers of the Red Army rally on board Russian battleship Petropavlovsk after suppressing the Kronstadt Rebellion; Source: ЦГАКФД" 1917 Members of the Presidium of the Executive Committee of the Kronstadt Soviet of Workers 'and Soldiers' Deputies 1917, by Antokolsky M.P. Misc Is this the "shot like partridges" leaflet? Pencil/pastels Suppression of the counter-revolutionary Kronstadt rebellion (1939) by Nikolai Kochergin (Q43906005) (1897-1974) Painting Red Army troops attack Kronstadt on March 1921; by Rudolf Frentz in State Russian Museum "Participant in the elimination of the 1921 Kronstadt mutiny" No. 670 Dmitriev L.F.-colonel of state security, an honorary security officer. Unsorted Artillery discussion (facing right); the one mentioned in the previous section on this talk page [8][9][10][11] Assorted images[12][13][14][15] mostly pre-rebellion, but a bunch of the classics uncredited at the bottom Voline Unknown Revolution photos, if this was the 1947 edition (1974 ed.), should be PD Russia, would have to check PD US Ship damage (related?)[16][17] from MAMM/MDF Dead[18] Dead on ice, March 17 attack? from Федеральное государственное бюджетное учреждение культуры "Государственный центральный музей современной истории России" but couldn't find in http://vm.sovrhistory.ru

czar 19:32, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Pollack's The Kronstadt Rebellion (1959)

Not worth citing this book:

This monograph unfortunately fails to do justice to this important and controversial subject. Scarcely longer than a graduate term paper, it draws on a very limited range of materials and adds nothing to our knowledge or understanding of the events with which it is concerned.
— https://www.jstor.org/stable/1033017

czar 21:47, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Citation work update

Hey @Czar: following from our previous discussion a while back, I finally got around to converting the Avrich citations, so now all of the ones listed come from the 1970 English language edition. I also corrected a few errors I noticed upon verifying the information, so that should all be squared away now. However, I just noticed that a fair amount of the text in the Legacy section has been greyed out, resulting in me missing the citations that were listed in there. Was there a reason for this? And is there something I can do to help resolve it? Cheers. --Grnrchst (talk) 21:14, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, @Grnrchst. I had started to convert the refs to the English version but started going slower when I too realized that there were errors in paraphrase. (Do you recall what exactly was incorrect? I tried to make corrections in the Spanish/Portuguese articles where feasible so that the mistakes would not be further propagated.) I'd still like to go back and confirm those citations at some point to bring this article to FA-status. Or if you can confirm that any Avrich-only citations you checked are accurate, I would only need to check the ones that cited multiple sources. I'm also tempted to rewrite some of the early sections with Getzler.

re: the commented out Legacy – That includes both new paragraphs I had not finished and old paragraphs that were either being recast or deleted. Feel free to restore any content that makes sense for the section, if not redundant to prior sections. czar 04:04, 14 April 2022 (UTC)