Talk:Kuo-Chen Chou

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Artoria2e5 in topic No Original Research

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Wikipedia editing activities of Kuo-Chen Chou

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Note: There is discussion of articles created by sockpuppets related to Kuo-Chen Chou at this link: WT:WikiProject_Molecular_Biology#Kuo-Chen_Chou_again. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 05:37, 9 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

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No Original Research

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The example added is clearly original research using a primary source, which is unacceptable for controversial/negative claim in a BLP. If added, Wikipedia would be the first published source to claim that this is an example of coercive citation. That's the definition of original research. Even if it appears obvious that this is a specific example of coercive citation, we can't be the first to make that claim. It needs to be referenced to a reliable secondary source. (In addition, the link used is no longer valid, although it is still available on archive.org) Bueller 007 (talk) 23:19, 9 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

OK. I think I'm starting to see your point. You're saying that the "...a review illustrating coercive citation..." is OR. Fair enough. Would it be possible to rephrase as, "There is a published anonymous review (since deleted) that illustrates the behaviour described in the editorials [1]." Or words to that effect? Paul (talk) 02:39, 10 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
Paul, the review is very fishy for sure, but the link to Chou does seem hard to prove in a BLP-compliant way. If this was a wikipedia sockpuppet investigation, it's easy to point out that its link to the now-deleted, sockpuppet-created distorted key theory strongly suggests that the reviewer is the same person as the COI-banned "jjia" puppeteer, and the behavior is indeed in line with the description. But I don't think I can do that in a BLP without someone pointing out this as an example elsewhere. (By the way, the link is somehow valid again.) --Artoria2e5 🌉 03:07, 5 March 2021 (UTC)Reply