Talk:Kuwasi Balagoon/GA1

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Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 16:36, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 16:36, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Images are suitably tagged. Researchgate is deprecated but here it's only being used to host a paper published elsewhere, which is OK.

• I don't think we can use the Youtube video as a source. See WP:RS/PS: "Most videos on YouTube are anonymous, self-published, and unverifiable, and should not be used at all. Content uploaded from a verified official account, such as that of a news organization, may be treated as originating from the uploader and therefore inheriting their level of reliability. However, many YouTube videos from unofficial accounts are copyright violations and should not be linked from Wikipedia, according to WP:COPYLINK."
• What makes kersplebedeb.com a reliable source?
• "the National Guard was sent into Maryland for a year as a result": suggest putting a date on this.
• Book titles in running text should be italicized. Titles of non-book writings should either be italicized if they're more like a book or in quotes if not. I would italicize The Crusader for example.
• "arrested on bank robbery charges in Newark, New Jersey": the arrest was in NJ? Or the robbery? Sounds like it was the robbery, in which case I'd suggest "arrested on charges of having robbed a bank in Newark, New Jersey".
• "Balagoon and fellow panther Sekou Odinga were accused of attempting to ambush and kill New York City police officers and stopped only by the intervention of more officers on the scene." The second half of this makes no syntactic sense -- I think you mean something like "Balagoon and fellow panther Sekou Odinga were accused of making an attempt to ambush and kill New York City police officers; the accusation claimed that they were stopped only by the intervention of more officers on the scene"? I changed it to "making an attempt" to make it clear we're talking about a specific incident, and then changed the second half to reflect what I think must be intended. I didn't want to copyedit this in in case I'm misinterpreting.
• "he was sentenced to a term of between 23 and 29 years": can we get the date of sentencing?
• We only have two sentences on the Brink's robbery, but there are a few more details about Balagoon's involvement in that article. Any reason we can't use some of that material here? Sourcing should be obtainable from that article, if necessary. We don't want to dupliate that article, but some expansion in this article seems worth it.
• The lead is a little short; I think it could easily be expanded with some of the material in the body.

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 18:46, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

I've implemented all of these recommendations with the exception of the first one relating to the use of a youtube video as source. I'm hoping to find an alternative source for the same video which doesn't break copyright. The origin of the video, I'm pretty positive, is WPIX out of New York City. If I can't find an alternative source, I wonder is there any way we might be able to salvage the information? I think the interview gives some contrasting insight into Balagoon away from the other sources, which all tend to view Balagoon in a sympathetic light. As it makes for a better counterbalance in the article, I'd like to retain the information if possible. CeltBrowne (talk) 03:58, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

The other changes are fine. You might try posting at WP:RSN to see if there's another way to cite the WPIX interview. I'll leave this GA open for a week or so while you follow up; let me know what you find out. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 12:42, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

For the sake of the GAN, I have removed the WPIX Interview.

As far as the Brinks robbery/trial, is there anything specifically you want to see added? CeltBrowne (talk) 20:41, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

No, I just thought there was room to add a bit more, and I see you've added some of that material. I'm going to go ahead and pass this now; if you think there's more to add that's up to you. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 20:46, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your guidance CeltBrowne (talk) 20:58, 30 August 2022 (UTC)