Talk:Kwangmyŏngsŏng program

Split

This material badly needs to be reorganized. We currently have the following related articles:

• Kwangmyŏngsŏng, which discusses three launches and the program
• Kwangmyŏngsŏng-2 which discusses only the third launch
• North Korean ballistic missile program, badly writyten and out-of-date
• Korean Committee of Space Technology, almost empty

The normal organization would be:

• Kwangmyŏngsŏng, a disambiiguation page
• Kwangmyŏngsŏng program discussing the background, technology etc. of all the launches
• Kwangmyŏngsŏng-1, discussing the first launch
• Kwangmyŏngsŏng-2, discussing the second launch

Compare for example Apollo, Apollo program, Apollo 11. In this specific case, it might be possible to skip the Kwangmyŏngsŏng program article and put that detail into Korean Committee of Space Technology (until they start multiple follow-on programs), with links and some duplication in North Korean ballistic missile program. Rmhermen (talk) 17:08, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

• I would prefer leaving the background article here (ie Kwangmyŏngsŏng rather than Kwangmyŏngsŏng programme or such), but other than that I agree. --GW… 17:30, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Oh, and the second launch should be split to Gwangmyeongseong-2, the third to Kwangmyŏngsŏng-2. --GW… 17:33, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
    • I know in other some other cases, failures are only discussed on the program page and not given their own article. Mars 4 in the Mars probe prgram appears to be one such. A number of Explorer program failures do not have individual articles - but neither do a number of successful launches on that list. Rmhermen (talk) 17:41, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
      • As far as I know, the de facto project attitude is that all satellites qualify for articles. This would be no exception. Mars 4 is on my to do list. --GW… 19:04, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
• I've gone ahead and split Kwangmyŏngsŏng-1. It shouldn't be controversial as we've been splitting articles like this off for months. --GW… 21:44, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

• Agree. It should mirror other space programs' formatting. Annihilatron (talk) 15:14, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

It's a year and a half later, and the news item has calmed down, but this issue hasn't been resolved. As discussed about, I think many details on the individual launched should be moved to the relevant articles; at the moment it looks like there is a lot of unnecessary duplication. Mlm42 (talk) 23:48, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• I have made a start on the clean up, and created a disambiguation page. More work will need to be done, and links to Kwangmyŏngsŏng will need to be checked to find out which article they should be aimed at. SilkTork *^YES! 11:27, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Kwangmyŏngsŏng program

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Reference named "BMD":

• From Kwangmyŏngsŏng-1: "Missile Defense Testing Needed to Meet North Korean Threat". Heritage Foundation. 1999-07-29. Retrieved 2009-04-05.
• From India: "India successfully test-fires interceptor missile". Times of India. Jul 26, 2010. Retrieved 14 January 2011.

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Juche Korea!

Imperialists's NORAD admits the 100th anniversary DPRK satellite has just reached orbit on top of a 4-stage rocket. All over on CNN and BBC. Russians claim to track its "Sputnik beeps" already.87.97.103.62 (talk) 07:01, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Did the failed launch of the Taepodong-2 in 2006 carry a satellite?

Concerning reports that the maiden launch of the Taepodong-2 in 2006 may have been a satellite launch attempt, it's not surprising that North Korea has not commented on the disastrous end to the Taepodong-2's first flight, nor have foreign government officials provided independent confirmation the rocket was carrying a satellite. The possibilities of the failed launch being a satellite launch attempt and a suborbital flight of a sounding rocket to test the airframe for the Unha rocket are equally likely because the launch took place from a fixed position on a launch pad (not a mobile platform as is the case with operational ICBMs) and North Korea still has not mastered the technology to make a nuclear warhead small enough to fit on the Taepodong-2. 68.4.28.33 (talk) 05:14, 19 January 2013 (UTC)Vahe Demirjian

Article update

The section "Tenth anniversary" should be deleted to reflect the fact that South Korea's Naro-1 had two failures and one success in 2009, 2010, and 2013 respectively and that the Sohae launch site has been mentioned in official statements. In this sense, South Korea was already beaten to the punch in the space race between the two Koreas. 68.4.28.33 (talk) 20:43, 4 July 2013 (UTC)Vahe Demirjian

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