Talk:L'Histoire du soldat

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Latest comment: 11 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Expand information about music and make into its own section.
1. Add notes about the percussion part: Stravinsky's meticulous scoring, how it's often played incorrectly.
2. Add notes about different versions of the score and recordings conducted by Stravinsky
Make it clear that the piece is notable more for the music than the story.
Explain historical significance … 1917 revolution; scaled down from Stravinsky's "big three" ballets; etc. Find sources.

– flamurai (t)

Joseph Dupraz, a Russian soldier? What is he doing between Denges and Denezy, then????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arsitarque (talk • contribs) 02:44, 5 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

I have no desire to be an editor, so I am adding this comment merely to make a suggestion for any future editor: The Soldier's Tale is Stravinsky's most frequently choreographed piece, outnumbering even The Rite of Spring by about two to one ^[1]. It has been choreographed by virtually every major choreographer and many, many minor ones (disclaimer: I have also choreographed it). Therefore there is no reason whatsoever to mention merely a couple of versions of it, especially since those versions are not even particularly important ones. Granted one of them was presented by a major dance company, but so were many, many of the other versions. DudleyBrooks (talk) 05:48, 25 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

^ http://ws1.roehampton.ac.uk/stravinsky/full_music.asp

Histoire or L'Histoire?

Latest comment: 3 years ago5 comments3 people in discussion

I'm confused already after reading the first 5 words of the lede. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 19:18, 29 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

The article should probably be moved to L'Histoire du soldat. In any case, the 1st sentence could be simplified to "L'Histoire du soldat (The Soldier's Tale) is a …". -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 10:31, 30 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

Done. Thanks. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 11:14, 30 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

This may need to be revisited. The K Catalog (http://www.kcatalog.org/index.php/browse-chapters/kcatalog/217-k029-soldier-s-tale) says firmly 'Not L’Histoire du Soldat . The version with an article harks back to the concert suite Grande Suite de L’histoire du Soldat, where, given the structural understanding of the French language, a definite article is called for in genitive case. The title as printed on the interior page appears correctly without article.'. As indicated,t he title page of the score has no article.GRoe (talk) 14:32, 16 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

The people at kcatalog.org are certainly firm in their statement about the title. There's still the question whether WP:COMMONNAME will trump them. It seems there is a considerable number of sources using L'Histoire, but it's not overwhelming. Maybe our previous decision was based on too much trust in our French colleagues who use fr:L'Histoire du soldat and don't even have a redirect at fr:Histoire du soldat, despite some incoming links there (including at fr:Charles Ferdinand Ramuz!). I agree that it could be moved back to Histoire du soldat. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:01, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

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[1] ttp://ws1.roehampton.ac.uk/stravinsky/full_music.asp

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