Talk:László Almásy

Love life?

szkoda, że nie Bułgar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.65.1.16 (talk) 20:12, 8 December 2013 (UTC) The film "The English Patient" implies that his lover's husband initially believed he was a homosexual. I'd like to know whether the real life Almasy may have been a homosexual.

• There were some indications to this direction, including letters to a German pilot that were reputedly love letters. Haven't seen any of them myself, though - Skysmith 10:20, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

• There are letters to Almasy from a German officer, but there is no letter from him. There is no evidence to support the suggested homosexuality, similarly, there is no evidence that Almasy worked for the Nazis. There is evidence he saved Jews during the war and he was helped to escape from Hungary by British intelligence... It is rather unfair to present not facts but fiction as fact, and fabricate evidence for one's interest. 1 feburary, 2006, Almásy Researcher

Almasy is the author of: "With Rommel in Africa" which ought to take care of where his allegiance's lay during WW II.

English authors suggest he was indeed homosexual or possibly bi-sexual.

One of the latest books on Almasy states he was indeed gay or bisexual. I'm not sure how to work either of these references into the article: [1] and [2]. If someone with more knowledge about Almasy could do that, I'd appreciate it! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 21:58, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

• The last books on Almásy were written for fame and/or money and used information the authors could find in other books and published papers... Tell me please, why is his sexual orientation the primary concern of the authors? I can not understand the point here: is a heterosexual explorer something better than a gay one? What is important in a biography? Is it really fair to use unreliable and insufficient information to put a pink label on someone who is just not the average? Is there an English author who could provide any evidence beyond suspicion? Or is it an addiction?

Suggestions, suspicions and speculations (not to mention plain wishes) are not enough to mark someone gay or bisexual. If I wrote some book in which I suggest that Winston Churchill was a secret gay, than should we put the rainbow tag on his article? Don't think so. To make things worse, there isn't a single word in the article about his sexuality, which contradicts Wikipedia guidelines for categorisation. Until someone cite some credible reference (much-much better than that Vue-Weekly pamphlet, or some "suggestions") about his proven homo- or bisexuality, I removed the LGBT category. I suggest to create a section in which these theories could be mentioned as theories, with proper references, of course. Pannonius (talk) 08:52, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Pannonius in regards to removing the LGBT banner, and was wondering why it is still/back at the top of this talk page. Without further arguments in its support, I am removing it. If someone has more conclusive evidence as to his sexual peferences feel free to put it in the main article and return the banner Storleone (talk) 06:42, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

All these people must feel so stupid since Almazy homosexuality is now confirmed. Very stupid people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.141.100.232 (talk) 22:10, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

My grandfather Marshall Latham Bond shared a Nile River steamboat cabin with Almasy and two other passengers for two weeks. As a result family has correspondence regarding Almasy's sexuality. The first letter written by a Viennese nobleman upon hearing of my grandfather's trip says "you know Almasy is homosexual. My grandfather's letter to my father says that Almasy neither brought homosexuality up nor did grandfather observe it in Almasy during the two weeks. If there was a homosexual proclivity it was low key. There is also a belief that a bohemian female friend of my family had a sexual relationship with him while hiring him as a guide several years later. There is enough evidence to assume Almasy did have some homosexual relationships. He seems to have been an opportunistic bisexual. RichardBond (talk) 23:50, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

The section labelled "Sexuality and death" has become problematic. It contains one sentence, which refers only to his death and not his sexuality. The information about his death is not much more than repetition of information given earlier in the article. There is no source given for the claim about the letters; and the current wording might give the impression that he was able to write letters after his death. However the discussion on this talk page suggests these letters are indeed relevant to the article. The newspaper reports of an unnamed individual commented on unpublished letters seem not to be great sources. So I would propose removing this section while a good source is located for these matters.Karl Asriel (talk) 22:04, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Berrow School

Could someone with the books pse check out Berrow School and his time in Eastbourne? I have a list of private schools of that period but nothing of that name comes up. Comments greatly appreciated. Mikeo1938 18:38, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Almásy Family

The article herein states that Almásy's family was untitled aristocracy. I am a bit confused about this, as my understanding has always been that they have been counts since at least the 1700's, as, in some genealogical work I am doing, I have come across a Countess Maria Beatrix zu Hardegg, auf Glatz u im Machlande marrying an Imre Ignac Zsádányi es törökszentmiklósi Grof Almásy (1751-1840). "Grof" in Hungarian means "Count", so I am assuming that the family was already titled at this time. If my information is incorrect, it would assist my studies greatly if someone could correct me and direct me to the proper resources on this subect. Thank you.Alejandro10009 (talk) 23:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

A European family can be noble without being titled. The family of Laszlo Almasy did not have a title before his services to Karl von Habsburg. There was also an Almasy family that were not close relatives of Laszlo Almasy who were titled before that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.240.206.200 (talk) 00:14, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

According to the Hungarian Wikipedia, Almásy belonged to a branch of the Almásy family that didn't wear the title of count (gróf). (Other branches did.) He never used the title in his own papers or books. So making it a part of his personal name is not correct. I've corrected it accordingly. Lumendelumine (talk) 14:02, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Righteous Among the Nations

He doesn't seem to be recognized by Yad Vashem as a Righteous among the Nations (see [3] for a full list as of January 1, 2010). Therefore I removed the respective categories. Gugganij (talk) 19:46, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Using cave paintings

The existence of the Uweinat cave paintings was known to local shepherds who avoided the allegedly haunted caves except when looking for lost sheep and was the subject of an article in the National Geographic before Almasy ever arrived in Egypt. He distinguished himself by thoroughly exploring the caves and drawing copies of the figures on sketch pads for publication.RichardBond (talk) 17:30, 6 July 2016 (UTC) RichardBond (talk) 17:30, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

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Expedition

Dear all, Would it be okay to add this section about recent expeditions organised by the Hungarian National Geographic Society following the steps of Almasy discoveries in Eastern Sahara? To be read as such:

See also

The Abu Ramla Sahara Expedition was established in 2000 with the aim of re-discovering the Eastern Sahara region that the legendary Hungarian explorer László Almásy visited, described and discovered during his travels in Egypt, Sudan and Libya. The name of such expedition was inspired by László Almásy himself, who was called by local Saharan tribes: “Abu Ramla” or “Father of the Sand”. The Abu Ramla Sahara Expedition visited the Nubian territory and the three ancient capitals of the Kushite kingdom: Kerma, Napata and Meroe. These archaeological sites are registered in UNESCO's list of World Heritage Sites. During their campaigns in 2003, 2004 and 2006, they captured various photographic material and filmed those areas where the remains of Kushite royal tombs can still be observed."

I would also like to add a note regarding the plaque in Hungarian at Almasy's birth place. This is the only plaque in Hungarian in such place and he was born Hungarian. To be read as (+ photo of the plaque):

   "On the occasion of the 120th anniversary of the birth of László Almásy (August 2015), the Abu Ramla Sahara Expedition placed a commemorative plaque in Hungarian on main entrance gate of the castle of Bernstein (Borostyánkő), where Almásy was born in 1895".

Looking forward to hearing from you! Cheers Asiaecica (talk) 01:47, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

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