Talk:LGBTQ rights in Hungary

Contradiciton

Now, the article claims that an impressive 60 % of Hungarians back same sex unions, which would mean that the degree of social progress is downright Western European. In the next paragraph, though, the alleged percentage of acceptance is only 18 % and that seems to be more in accordance with the rest of Eastern Europe's attitude towards gays. Can someone clarify that? Teodorico 06:43, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

It's definitely not 60%. 18% seems far more likely, but even that's slightly far-fetched.- User: Honved2018 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Honved2018 (talk • contribs) 17:07, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Questionable accuracy

According to this article, Hungary is very gay-friendly. In my experience listening to conversations in the country, it's quite the opposite. On the topic of homosexuality, same-sex adoption, and same-sex marriage, I've only heard strongly negative reactions from Hungarians. Homosexuality is described as "immoral," "outrageous," and "an idiocy." I have no idea where the statement "Hungary is one of the most liberal European societies" comes from, because homophobia appears to be rampant among the general public. This fact is sorely lacking in the article. Hungary cannot be compared to nations like Germany and France, where public opinion polls show a far higher acceptance rate of homosexuality in daily society. — Emiellaiendiay 07:11, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I completely agree. Info needs to be qualified.--Tdombos (talk) 00:12, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree also. We Hungarians don't exactly support LGBT in Hungary.-User: Honved2018

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Homosexuality propaganda law: POV and dubious sources

Someone is citing the Pink News and it is claiming the law in Hungary is similar to Russia, which is certainly not and that it might be sanctioned by EU, which is also very doubtful. Is it allowed to use Pink News with such a dubious claims as source or must it be supported by mainstream media? --Cautious (talk) 19:30, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Contradictions in summary

"LGBT people in Hungary may face legal and social challenges not experienced by non-LGBT residents. Homosexuality is legal in Hungary for both men and women. Discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and sex registered at birth is banned in the country. However, households headed by same-sex couples are not eligible for all of the same legal rights available to heterosexual married couples. Registered partnership for same-sex couples was legalized in 2009, but same-sex marriage remains banned. The Hungarian government has passed legislation that restricts the civil rights of LGBT Hungarians – such as ending legal recognition of transgender Hungarians and banning LGBT content and displays for minors.|"

There are registered partnerships, everything is legal. Where exactly are the legal challenges, the first sentence is talking about??? --Cautious (talk) 07:30, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

You should improve your reading with comprehension ability. tgeorgescu (talk) 21:30, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Your POV point is that everything is correct and others have a problem. Any merit point from your side, except threats?--Cautious (talk) 07:51, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Informations

That is not illegal to adopt as single LGBT person, but single persons can adopt only with special government approval, what is irl given in all cases, but to get your papers into the ministry, they have to also signed by lower level authorites, there may make you fail, but pro forma no discrimination allowed on sexual orientation. Gay couples are not allowed to adopt together, or any non-married couples. Single adoption has lower priority compared to married, so single people in most cases only get disabled, older, or Roma children, whom couples are not so passionate about. :( 2020 constitution change was not very explicit ban, rather bullshit slogans about traditional family. Now we can see how it is applied. Also, there is no laws banning openly gay people from serving in military. However, during the universal conscription time, there was a don't ask don't say policy, if you told them you are gay, they not conscripted you. Actually heterosexual people lied about their orientation to avoid conscription, so they sent people to psychiatry test are they really homosexual. Now they officially don't expel you if you came out, that is officially discrimination, and they don't ask, because it is protected personal data. In a nutshell, it's not said explicitly, you can serve if you are openly gay, but there is no law banning it. For trans, army is a no go zone, I think (not sure it is banned by law, but can't imagine that in our quite conservative society.) but that is not a topic at all, maybe there was no precedent yet. I am Hungarian. Non-Hungarian sources are sometimes claiming the situation a bit worse for LGBTQ then it is in reality. Worldwide comparsion we are absolutely pro-gay by laws irl, and even in few European countries there are more harsh laws. The problem is the hard rethoric used by some officials, politicians and propagandists, also homophobia among less educated, rural, older people, these problems are related, because populist politicians say what people want to hear. Also problematic the low quality of rule of law, (probably purposedly) too universal or weirdly specific laws, what is hard to interpret. Some LGBT content is censored (it is poorly defined what is and what is not, and there is a court decision what implies that some parts of the law can't be applied, because they forgot to write a comma somewhere in the law), but irl it means banned from schools, area within 200m around schools and churches, and should be 18+ rated, if printed material, covered by dark foil in the stores, on television it's only allowed to brodcast nighttime. While it is online, like most LGBT content, you just have to click you are over 18. Call by your name is ofc restricted, while the LGBT related episodes of Friends sitcom can run 12+ rated. Sources (use translator programme to check, in Hungarian): https://orokbe.hu/2023/01/18/orokbefogadas-egyedul-2023-ban/ (about single adoption issues) https://index.hu/belfold/2011/02/08/army_of_lovers/2/ (about LGBT in army) https://444.hu/2020/12/15/az-anya-no-az-apa-ferfi-a-fidesz-kdnp-megszavazta-a-9-alkotmanymodositast (constitutional changes) Páfrány (talk) 20:44, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

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