Talk:La Melpomène-class torpedo boat
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Dubious
editThe various histories in the Ship section don't match the histories in Conway, which (I would have thought) would be a reliable source for this subject. Does anyone know where the information here came from? Xyl 54 (talk) 23:42, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm no expert in this at all, and don't have Conway to compare, but they are very different to Bruno Nicolas' Dictionnaire de la Flotte de Guerre Française de 1671 à nos Jours (though that certainly contains some errors). For example, Nicolas has:
- LA POMONE > FR 42 > TA10 > lost 17/1/1944 (built At & Ch de La Loire)
- L'IPHIGÉNIE > FR43 > TA11 > lost 10/9/1943
- LA BAYONNAISE > FR44 > TA13 > scuttled Toulon 25/8/1944
- BOMBARDE > FR41 > TA9 > lost 23/8/1944
- LA POUSUIVANTE > (no Italian name given) not returned to service
- BALISTE > FR45 > TA12 > sunk 24/11/1943 "(or destroyed in Egyptian Sea 22/8/1943?)"
- none of them recorded being captured at Oran. Davidships (talk) 11:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- That pretty much agrees with what's in Conway (there's a scan of the page in the external links [1]) and, as it turns out, with the information in the other three websites linked as references. So I've re-written the ship histories to reflect the sources. I don't know where the information here came from; some of it was just fanciful. Anyway, thanks for checking; Xyl 54 (talk) 00:21, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
- That's good. Seeing the Conway extract, I think that you can with confidence correct the builder for LA POMONE. It was probably a confusion with the previous POMONE, the steam frigate of 1842, which was indeed built at the Arsenal de Lorient. Davidships (talk) 12:21, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
- That pretty much agrees with what's in Conway (there's a scan of the page in the external links [1]) and, as it turns out, with the information in the other three websites linked as references. So I've re-written the ship histories to reflect the sources. I don't know where the information here came from; some of it was just fanciful. Anyway, thanks for checking; Xyl 54 (talk) 00:21, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Move
editThis page was moved recently, and the ship names edited, to remove the definite article from La Melpomène and several of the others. I have reverted this, as there was no justification for it. All the sources on the page (and I have now added some more) list these vessels (or 8 of the 12 anyway) as having names with the definite article. If anyone has a source that says differently, I suggest they bring it here, as it may warrant a footnote informing of the difference; but the weight of evidence is for the page to stay as it was originally written. Xyl 54 (talk) 23:44, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
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Commissioned ?
editCommission dates in 1936 are not consistent with the French Wikipedia information... --Wisdood (talk) 11:26, 4 July 2019 (UTC)