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Requested move 2016

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The result of the move request was: Moved as proposed by SMcandlish — Amakuru (talk) 15:47, 5 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

– Neither title uses correct capitalisaton and the titles are disambiguated only by an incorrectly capitalised and an incorrectly lowercased letter. Note MOS:FOREIGNTITLE and WP:OPERATITLE for relevant guidelines. — AjaxSmack 02:17, 29 August 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. — Sam Sailor 15:30, 5 September 2016 (UTC))Reply

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The first should move to La Vie Parisienne (magazine), per WP:COMMONNAME, more specifically per the cover consistently using that title for decades, and most RS on the subject in English also doing so (see, e.g., book search results [1]). The fact that it doesn't agree with present French title capitalization trends is irrelevant; don't change the published title per WP:NOR. This work dates from the Nouveau-Deco period when self-conscious toying with titles for intentional (often defiant) effect was first becoming "a thing". All the scans I find online have the title in ALL-CAPS inside the magazine, so its own print, aside from the covers, doesn't help. The vast majority of English-language references to the magazine give "La Vie Parisienne", so go with that.
Support second move as proposed. The COMMONAME of the opera (in English sources) is difficult to determine, and it shows up as La vie parisienne, La Vie Parisienne, and La Vie parisienne. On this I would be inclined to trust opera/music-specific scholarly sources in English, per WP:OPERATITLE. Grove Music Online gives La Vie parisienne for the original and later adaptations (source link, subscription required: [2]).
WP:DIFFCAPS is not really satisfied with a difference this minor, so the titles should be disambiguated, as proposed. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 22:44, 30 August 2016 (UTC). Revised: — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 23:19, 30 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Relisted - please add new comments below this notice. — Sam Sailor 15:30, 5 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

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