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editThis "ethnic group" is inexistent in all relevant articles: eg here, here, here, here, here and here. There is no legal recognition, it's not in common use, there's any consensus about this definition, status and composition. In Italy there are hundreds of romance languages and dialects, none of which creates an "ethnic group". Even the so-called (of course, so-called) Proporzionale etnica in South Tyrol asks the linguistic affiliation, not an ethnicity: and in any case it's irrelevant because this article isn't called Ladin people of South Tyrol, and we are not doing original research or political rallies. The proper category is Italian people, like any other population composed only by Italian citizens, who all live in Italy, born and raised here. --Felisopus (talk) 19:15, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- Dear Felisopus, ethnicity is a social contruct, whose existance is not necessarily bound to a legal framework. There is a academic source in the article which explicitly talks on more than 200 pages about the Ladin ethnicity. Here are several hundred other sources. Since your argumentation is based on Wikipedia articles (no comment...) and some thoughts which are apparently your personal beliefs, I have reinserted the category and added an additional source for the ethnicity of the Ladins. --Mai-Sachme (talk) 19:27, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- Well, there's academic literature about ladin ethincity - what else do you need? We should accept that. Please Felisopus do not start another edit-war on the basis of false and unproved assumptions.--Sajoch (talk) 01:24, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
How are Ladins an ethnicity?
editLadins genetically and culturally have nothing different from the other Tyroleans, and they historically were always united to Tyrol. They just conserved a neo-Latin language but this doesn’t differentiate them from Trentine Venetians or Austrians, as they also feel part of this two. 5.91.22.177 (talk) 12:09, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
- Please read Ethnic group. --Mai-Sachme (talk) 20:34, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Requested move 11 July 2023
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 09:37, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
Ladin people → Ladins – Similar to Catalans, Romanians or Ukrainians Lucjim (talk) 19:52, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
- Support. Seems to be consistent with our general usage. Rreagan007 (talk) 23:52, 12 July 2023 (UTC)