Talk:Ladislaus II of Hungary/GA1
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Reviewer: Jonas Vinther (talk · contribs) 21:33, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Well-written
a. the prose is clear and concise, it respects copyright laws, and the spelling and grammar are correct
b. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation
- The article is well-written. I made some minor changes per MOS:DATEFORMAT. However, I think the quote used in this article is too long. Per WP:LONGQUOTE you should makes quotes as short as possible. I would like the GA-nominators thoughts on this.
- Verifiable with no original research
a. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline
b. It provides in-line citations from reliable sources for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines
c. It contains no original research
- The article uses book and journal sources all of which are listed with the necessary source information.
- Broad in its coverage
a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic
b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail
- The article is broad in its coverage, stays on topic and does not go into unnecessary detail.
- Neutral
It represents viewpoints fairly and without bias, giving due weight to each
- The article is neutral with no personal opinions or statements.
- Stable
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute
- The article is stable, does not significantly change from day to day and is not the subject of edit wars or content disputes.
- Illustrated
a. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content
b. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions
- The article is nicely illustrated with three images, all of which are public domains and uploaded to Commons.
- Pass, fail or hold?
- Because of the quote-issue I will put the article on hold and give the GA-nominator a chance to share his thoughts. Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 21:52, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Comment File:Manuel I Comnenus.jpg lacks any description, source, or authorship information; the other two images are only described in Hungarian at their file description pages. That's dodgy at GA, and will not pass anything higher. On the other hand, I think it's generally accepted in history articles that a few key quotes from primary sources are acceptable, so I wouldn't worry too much about the quote. It's not that excessive. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:53, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- I fully agree it's common and important to have quotes in history articles, but I would still like the GA-nominator's opinion on shorten the quote or so per the overall length of the article. Its excessiveness is really more a matter of opinion. Regarding the images, I will suggest the GA-nominator make an English translation of the Hungarian text. Cheers for your input. Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 23:37, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for your above comments. I think that the quotes (which are all based on scholarly works) are necessary, because they assist readers to understand what his contemporaries thought of Ladislaus II. In connection with the images, I will seek the assistance of a fellow editor, because I have never edited Wikimedia. Borsoka (talk) 02:22, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- "Chronicon Pictum P121 A korona elrablása.JPG" and "Chronicon Pictum P113 Az aradi véres gyűlés.JPG" now have descriptions in English and proper licence tags on Wikimedia Commons. I tried to fix "Manuel I Comnenus.jpg" as well, however the uploader user Tokle did not state that the photo was taken by him/her, therefore I am going to remove this picture from the article. Fakirbakir (talk) 10:58, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Nice job. Because of the length of the article I have added a quotebox. With these improvements I'm going to pass it. Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 13:35, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- "Chronicon Pictum P121 A korona elrablása.JPG" and "Chronicon Pictum P113 Az aradi véres gyűlés.JPG" now have descriptions in English and proper licence tags on Wikimedia Commons. I tried to fix "Manuel I Comnenus.jpg" as well, however the uploader user Tokle did not state that the photo was taken by him/her, therefore I am going to remove this picture from the article. Fakirbakir (talk) 10:58, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for your above comments. I think that the quotes (which are all based on scholarly works) are necessary, because they assist readers to understand what his contemporaries thought of Ladislaus II. In connection with the images, I will seek the assistance of a fellow editor, because I have never edited Wikimedia. Borsoka (talk) 02:22, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- I fully agree it's common and important to have quotes in history articles, but I would still like the GA-nominator's opinion on shorten the quote or so per the overall length of the article. Its excessiveness is really more a matter of opinion. Regarding the images, I will suggest the GA-nominator make an English translation of the Hungarian text. Cheers for your input. Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 23:37, 9 October 2014 (UTC)