Talk:Lady Diana Cooper

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As Lady Diana Cooper chose to be known by that name most of her life, even after officially becoming "Lady Norwich", and the Google hits are roughly three times as many for that name than her maiden name of "Lady Diana Manners", I think this article should be moved to Lady Diana Cooper ~ Kalki 20:41, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

I agree; however, I disagree with putting her entire LEGAL title in the opening of the article. Wiki has not done this with other entries who wish to be known by other titles, ie the Duchess of Cornwall, who is nonetheless legally Princess of Wales. I realize that Lady Diana Cooper chose a style which was without precedent, ie she was legally Lady Norwich, but it is how she is/was best known and which title she preferred.Mowens35 14:22, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

The Duchess of Cornwall is an exceptional case; she is never, ever known as Princess of Wales, though she does hold that title. The rules on Wikipedia also are more fluid for actual royalty than they are for ordinary peers like Lady Diana. Another example of this bending the rules for royalty is Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester, who was never a princess in her own right but was still styled as though she was, with the Queen's permission. Because of the unique, and not altogether legal, things modern monarchs tend to do with styles, there is some leniency when it comes to actual royalty (i.e., people styled HRH). But naming conventions for peers are quite clear at Wikipedia:WikiProject Peerage: regardless of the article's title, the lead should show the full name, though it is preferable to clarify if it is rarely used, as we have done for Lady Diana. The first example of this that comes to mind is the British politician Michael Ancram, who also uses a title to which he has no legal right. Just like Lady Diana, his article is still located at the name he uses, but the lead shows his full title. You will be hard-pressed to find a non-royal example of a lead that does not reflect these standards. TysK 19:49, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Your high dudgeon amuses me. Mowens35 19:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

FYI Her son's divorce from Anne Clifford may have taken place in 1985, but when did it become final, legally? Usually it takes some time for the final decree. Can you find this out? Might help with title problems re Diana.Mowens35 23:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Rt Hon?

Can someone explain to me why she was a Rt Hon? as described here [1]. Thanks. Giano (talk) 08:54, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

All peers and peeresses below the rank of Marquess are Right Honourable, including peeresses who are the wives of peers. Proteus (Talk) 10:35, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Titanic

Now heres a puzzle, the London Evening Standard of 3 Nov 2010, reviewing an exhibition of Titanic artefacts lists some passengers, including 'society fashion designer Lady Duff Cooper, who escaped in lifeboat number one - known as "the millionaires' boat" - and gave evidence at the disaster inquiry'. Is this Lady Diana [Duff] Coper the subject of this article? If so it should surely be included.

86.189.4.185 (talk) 19:44, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Consulting the nominal roll of the Titanic I see that Lady Duff Gordon is listed therin - The Evening Standard sub-editors have slipped up - it is a mistake.78.149.161.42 (talk) 17:31, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Exchange with Noel Coward

It would be nice to get in how she attempted to snub Noel Coward by saying she had seen some humorous turn of his and "I didn't laugh at all, Mr. Coward." To which he replied "That's funny, because the other day I saw you as the Madonna, and I laughed till I cried." This was a well-known story: can anyone document it? Seadowns (talk) 12:19, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Inconsistency re Duff Cooper's term as Ambassador to France

In the section "Social figure, wife of ambassador" it says "Her reputation became even more celebrated in France as the centrepoint of immediate post-Second World War French literary culture when Cooper served from 1944 to 1948", but in the next paragraph it says "Following Duff Cooper's retirement in 1947, the couple continued to live in France". One of these dates has to be wrong. Dunarc (talk) 20:21, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

I should note that List of ambassadors of the United Kingdom to France and Duff Copper's own article give his dates of services as 1944-1948, so I suspect either the 1947 is mistake or he announced his retirement in 1947, but officially stayed on until 1948. If it is the latter, and someone can find a source for it, then this needs to be made clear. Dunarc (talk) 20:24, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

I should also note that Duff Copper's own article also says that "His term as ambassador ended at the end of 1947", so there does seem to be ambiguity and contradiction over the issue. Dunarc (talk) 22:45, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

The ODNB article on Duff Cooper says he left the Embassy at the end of '47. DuncanHill (talk) 19:56, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Did she have plastic surgery?

This article seems to suggest it. It's quite confusing though. Did she not want to pay? Prinsgezinde (talk) 19:49, 19 April 2021 (UTC)