Talk:Ladykiller in a Bind

"nonconsensual"

Hellos, I made an edit to the "Ladykiller in a Bind" article which you reverted. Assuming the restored sentence stays, I would like to make one edit to the sentence. However I don't want to get in an edit war or anything so I wanted to mention my edit first.

I would like to remove the word "nonconsensual" from the sentence "the player character had been made subject to nonconsensual sexual humiliation by a man". Having played the scene I disagree it describes a nonconsensual situation, and I do not believe the citation given supports the idea it was nonconsensual. (The word the trigger warning used before the scene was removed was "transactional".) The sentence stands alone fine without this word, and nothing is lost since the reception section contains more and better context on the consent issues with the scene (the discussion in the reception section is also superior because it makes it clear the claim is the RPS writer's judgement call, rather than being a factual statement made with wikipedia's authorial heft). If I removed the word, my edit justification would be that the citation does not support the claim. If I make this edit, is this ok with you, or would that lead to a revert as well? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Awk~enwiki (talk • contribs)

@Awk~enwiki: I appreciate you contacting me. Because the scene is a focus of much of the coverage, I think we should attempt to describe it briefly. Whether a sexual act is consensual either in real life or in fiction often isn't readily apparent, and people can in good faith disagree about what invalidates consent in a transactional situation. That's why we as editors don't use our own judgment in such cases, but rely on what sources write (WP:NOR). In this case, the source describes the scene as the player character "being forced into a sexual situation". Would you agree to the following: "the player character was forced into sexual humiliation by a man"?  Sandstein  18:44, 20 March 2017 (UTC)