Talk:Lancaster West Estate

POVs

This article on a public housing scheme seems loaded with negative POVs (all referenced). This is not how such an estate article should be written. I will move them from the lead into a section called reputation, and we can start to examine them there.--ClemRutter (talk) 10:25, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

It's merely a different reality to you life-experience. User:ClemRutter, why don't you find positive things to say about inner-London housing estates in the Thatcher years? It might take you a while, ind you  :) — O Fortuna ^{semper crescis, aut decrescis} 10:30, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

User:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi. Thats what we must try to do- are you on board to work on Housing Estate articles? There is talk of setting up a wikiproject. Throughout the country the Thatcher era and the downgrading of building standards and the starvation of maintenance funding are all issues to address. Anyway the article needs to be built up as we have done in cottage estate of Cressingham Gardens or even The Meadows, Nottingham.ClemRutter (talk) 11:14, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

@ClemRutter: Yo, those are really great (if not yet Good) articles! I was comparing this more to things like Beaumont Road and Cathall, compared with which this is *major self-indulgence alert* Voltarian prose  :) — O Fortuna ^{semper crescis, aut decrescis} 11:28, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Yep.79.77.207.102 (talk) 14:28, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Parking a reference

• Shows cross section and floor plan of Grenfell — Preceding unsigned comment added by ClemRutter (talk • contribs) 11:26, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

• LANCASTER WEST ESTATE - AN IDEAL FOR LIVING? Interviews with architects.--ClemRutter (talk) 12:34, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

• https://www.e-architect.co.uk/london/grenfell-tower-in-west-london many drawings of grenfell. --ClemRutter (talk) 16:24, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

• Kensington Academy and Leisure Centre Planning Application Loads of descriptions and context ClemRutter (talk) 23:24, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

• Notting Barns Ward Profile — Preceding unsigned comment added by ClemRutter (talk • contribs) 09:30, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

• "Kategoria: Architecture". Constantine Gras. Retrieved 27 June 2017. Discussion of typeface and personalities behind Silchester East and West, Lancaster West and More West. Including image
  • Original walkway
  • Ariel shot of site
  • 1972 plans for walkwats and shopping arcade

• Mason, Rowena; Sherwood, Harriet (23 August 2017). "Grenfell Tower fire: May accepts Tory-led council did not help quickly enough". The Guardian. Retrieved 23 August 2017.ClemRutter (talk) 18:07, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Factual accuracy

The [[North Kensington]] [[Sports centre]] divided the estate in two.<ref name="Curtis1999">{{cite book|author=Sarah Curtis|title=Children who Break the Law, Or, Everybody Does it|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=mxyrbk1t4ZAC&pg=PA169|year=1999|publisher=Waterside Press|isbn=978-1-872870-76-2|pages=169–}}</ref>

Can someone review this sentence I removed. This refers to a situation in 1989. Was the Crime area contiguous to the estate? Was Sarah (p169/170) speaking metaphorically. To me the NKSC is on the extreme top right of the site. Without a reference to actual planning documents or the Slum Clearance Order at the time, I am struggling to ascertain where the northern boundary of the site was. We have one anecdote that talks about the good and bad sides of the estate- that contrasts the finger blocks with a vague elsewhere- but no information. However this contradicts everything else we have.

North Kensington Sports centre is not North Kensington Sports centre so I see that as unhelpful overlink.

I don't have the local knowledge to make a judgement- and cannot justify leaving a waif fact in a lead so I am commenting this out until it has been discussed.

Thanks guys- for all the ce and checking. ClemRutter (talk) 09:30, 24 June 2017 (UTC)