Talk:Lancaster and Preston Junction Railway

Roebuck Halt and Crow Hall Halt

Copied from User talk:Paul Sidorczuk#Roebuck Halt and Crow Hall Halt

Where is your evidence that these station names were used? (This edit.) There is no reference to them in Butt, R. V. J. (October 1995). The Directory of Railway Stations: details every public and private passenger station, halt, platform and stopping place, past and present (1st ed.). Sparkford: Patrick Stephens Ltd. ISBN 978-1-85260-508-7. OCLC 60251199. OL 11956311M.. -- Dr Greg  talk  16:00, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Copied from User talk:Dr Greg#Lancaster and Preston Junction Railway....the response from the academic to whom doubts were cast on his veracity of information.

Please refer to the now-updated body text matter of the Wikipedia article as the elderly retired professor who knows the detailed history of the line very well and of the period up to 1845 where his access to the company minutes has revealed much in the way of previously unpublished matter. He visited me yesterday and noting that someone at Wikipedia has cast doubts on the veracity of his long-known information, used my own HP compueter system to enter all his information on both Crow Hall Halt and Roe Buck Halt and the reasons why both of these were relocated in a very short period of time and the position to where they were both relocated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul Sidorczuk (talk • contribs) 09:00, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

That's helpful, but Wikipedia requires information to be backed up by reliable published sources. Unfortunately an anonymous unpublished professor doesn't count as a reliable source for Wikipedia purposes. Butt's published book that I referred to above does mention these stations but not under those names.

• "Broughton" station (not Crow Hall Halt) was open from 26 June 1840 to November 1840, then moved to the site of Barton & Broughton station, originally called "Broughton" from November 1840 to April 1861, then renamed "Barton and Broughton" from April 1861 until closure on 1 May 1939.
• "Roebuck" station (not Roe Buck Halt) was open from 26 June 1840 to August 1849, then moved to "Brock" station, from about 1849 until closure on 1 May 1939.

I think what you say may well be true but Wikipedia needs a reliable published source to prove it. We must also bear in mind that in the early days of railways, stations didn't always have official names and may have been referred to under several different names. -- Dr Greg  talk  13:56, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Quick, Michael (2009) [2001]. Railway passenger stations in Great Britain: a chronology (4th ed.). Oxford: Railway & Canal Historical Society. ISBN 978-0-901461-57-5. OCLC 612226077. page 333 does support Roe Buck (without Halt) as an alternative to Roebuck but is silent on any Crow Hall Halt. Nthep (talk) 12:37, 11 November 2014 (UTC)