Talk:Lancaster railway station

Latest comment: 2 years ago by RandomCanadian in topic Please don't treat articles as personal fiefdoms

Line change

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My edits made on the Oxenholme Lake District, Lancaster and Preston stations were reverted. Baisically, I repelaced Preston from the next stop bit of the Windermere and Furness lines with (West Coast Main Line). This follows the format of the individual lines' pages, and indicates that although the line ends, through services move on to the other line.

At the moment, these boxes contradict the lines' pages as they suggest Lancaster and Preston are on the Windermere line; theya re not. I feel that my changes would give Wikipedia more consistency. Below is the example of my box:

Preceding station   National Rail Following station
Carnforth   TransPennine Express
(Furness Line)
  (West Coast Main Line)

To indicate that the through services are transpennine, another box could be added reading:

Preceding station   National Rail Following station
Preston   Virgin Trains
(West Coast Main Line)
  Oxenholme Lake District

This would follow the format of other lines with multiple providers

Robdurbar 16:02, 1 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Why is there no mention of Lancaster Greaves Station??

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The first station in Lancaster was Lancaster Greaves Station situated south of Penny Street. The building, which was also the headquarters of the Lancaster & Preston Junction Railway from 1840 to 1849, was superseded by this 'Castle' station in 1846. Today the first Lancaster station survives in part as a section of Lancaster infirmary, it has been remodelled as a Georgian villa, standing at the corner of South Road and Ashton Road. After closure as a passenger station it was used as a goods station.

Interestingly Greaves station was built as a terminal station even though it clear that the railway would continue northward. It is possible the first station was initially sited at this point because the railway was envisaged to pass on the east side of Lancaster by crossing the Lune near the city centre. However the Lancaster & Carlisle Railway decided in favour of a cheaper route west of the city following the Lancaster Canal and crossing the River Lune from Ladies Walk to a through station near the castle at its southern end.

This led to the construction of the aptly named Castle Station which was designed by Sir William Tite. The original building survives on the west side of the tracks. It is a mock-Tudor, two storey building with mullioned windows and a Gothic arcaded entrance built in local stone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.58.79 (talk) 18:28, 18 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Well, according to Butt (1995), p. 138, there was no station of that name. What Butt does show is a station simply named "Lancaster", on the Lancaster & Carlisle Railway, opened by the Lancaster & Preston Junction Rly on 26 June 1840, closed 1 August 1849. The present station opened as "Lancaster Castle" 22 September 1846 by the Lancaster & Carlisle Rly; renamed "Lancaster" by BR 5 May 1969. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:25, 18 November 2011 (UTC)Reply
After seeing this discussion I have created Lancaster (Greaves) railway station. -- Dr Greg  talk  18:54, 19 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Please don't treat articles as personal fiefdoms

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Lancaster station had as its mascot a cat called Toby who was popular with station staff and now has a memorial bench. These are verified historical facts about Lancaster station. Whether or not they are trivial facts is a matter of opinion. Please don't behave arrogantly and delete these facts again. I realize that this plea will probably fall on deaf ears. If it doesn't, thank you for behaving as a Wikipedia editor should. Mwrcwmmw (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 10:01, 17 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

This is not about ownership it's about trivia. Per WP:BRD your bold edit has been reverted and you have rightly come here to discuss. Let's see if others support your addition or not. 10mmsocket (talk) 10:07, 17 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
For reference, this is the content that was removed. 10mmsocket (talk) 14:05, 17 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
If a reliable third party source (probably something with a wider geographical reach than the Lancaster newspaper) sees it as noteworthy enough to report on it wouldn’t be trivial, and can be added. SK2242 (talk) 14:20, 17 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Station cats are part of some stations history, such as those at Tonbridge. No reason they shouldn't be mentioned as long as reported by reliable sources. Mjroots (talk) 14:35, 17 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
WP:TRIVIA appears to be about avoiding sections titled "Trivia", "Facts", etc, and states This guideline does not suggest the inclusion or exclusion of any information; it only gives style recommendations. Issues of inclusion are addressed by content policies. Thus I don't think it can be cited as a reason to remove this material. The information on the station cat is sourced, so I see no problem with its inclusion. I also see no reason why the Lancaster Telegraph doesn't count as a reliable source. NemesisAT (talk) 15:35, 17 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
WP:NOTEVERYTHING is the relevant policy. - X201 (talk) 15:49, 17 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
For me personally, a station cat probably falls under the trivia category. Bellowhead678 (talk) 20:08, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Having a memorial bench (if this is not common practice) would be a valid claim to being noteworthy enough for a mention. I mean, I'd guess that for most station cats we hear nothing about, so this is still more coverage than routine. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 14:14, 26 March 2022 (UTC)Reply