Talk:Large family car

Not so large

No doubt due to high fuel taxes large cars such as the Ford Scorpio have disappeared from many countries, especially in Europe. However in some parts of the world, notably Australia and the USA, 'full size' cars are still produced and most of the cars described in this article are actually perceived, and marketed, as mid size cars in those markets. For example in Australia the Ford Mondeo (discontinued here some years ago but soon to be relaunched as a mid size car) sits below the Ford Falcon in size category. The Holden (Vauxhall) Vectra, which is smaller than the Holden Commodore, has all but disappeared from the market although its stablemate, the Astra, is very successful, being sold as a small car; a popular choice with young single professional people and retired couples - i.e. no kids --MichaelGG 07:19, 3 October 2007 (UTC).

Also, I note that in an earlier version of this article there was a picture of our Australian Ford Falcon which was removed by someone who made the comment "The Ford Falcon is not a large family car. In fact the Ford Falcon IS a large family car, in Australia. Why was it removed? --MichaelGG 07:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Why not discuss in the discussion area?

Dear well-meaning editors,

This article was created to describe the British car class referred to as large family car. This is its sole intent and purpose. In a way, it can be seen as describing the classification in entire Europe, as most classification systems used in different European countries/languages mirror the British one and we won't go into details such as what a Mittelklassewagen or D-segment is in the English Wikipedia. The pan-European EuroNCAP organization also uses this term (and other British terms) in their car classification, which is, as of 2008, perhaps the only unified official car division by class in Europe, such as USA's EPA.

So, this article does NOT deal with similar cars or classes in other parts of the world. As mentioned, the same cars which fall into this classification can be referred to as mid-size cars in the US (there is a separate article for this class, which can be seen as corresponding, but not as entirely equivalent), and perhaps can, or can not, be seen as large cars in Australia. They are also somewhere between size 2 and size 5 in Japan if memory serves me well. That said, this article talks about the European large family car class, so whether a Ford Mondeo is this or another thing outside of Europe is of interest to the Ford Mondeo article and perhaps an article on the relevant class.

I guess it might be advisable to create an article on the Australian "large car" class, if there are enough sources to back it (I admit this article sorely lacks it, but at least the EuroNCAP site confirms the existence of such class).

Kind regards,

PrinceGloria (talk) 09:53, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. If you look at say the Mid-size car article it discusses the different usages of the term in different markets under separate subheadings. This makes for a far more useful and interesting article. Surely it makes sense to do the same thing here. What the original article creator intended is pretty irrelevant to creating a better, more comprehensive article. --jjron (talk) 14:11, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

"Large family cars in the UK since 1970" section

While I'm sure this section has been written in good faith, it is entirely unsourced, and written in a style inappropriate for Wikipedia. I respectfully suggest the author of this section should consult the Wikipedia guidlines WP:NOR, WP:V, WP:RS, WP:NOT and WP:WORDS before making any more contributions. Letdorf (talk) 12:01, 18 June 2010 (UTC).

I think this section should be removed alltogether, why we would need own section for UK markets, and this violates those guidelines mentioned above. -->Typ932 ^T·C 19:00, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

for me almost all the articles like the one on this page are suffering from "localism", then we would like this template: note that this is wikipedia in English language, not the English wikipedia --Pava (talk) 13:03, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Yep too much of car articles have this "localism" , there is no need to write for example thailand things to car articles or Uk or what ever country, unless there is some important reason to do so. -->Typ932 ^T·C 14:31, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

I certainly have no objection to this section being deleted. Letdorf (talk) 20:14, 9 March 2012 (UTC).