Talk:Lasithi massacres

Latest comment: 1 month ago by Mickmct in topic Another clean up.

Unless anyone objects, I'm going to tidy this page up. At least one of the links is broken and I know that the website its supposed to link to no longer exists.In addition, the information given in the 'Aftermath' section about the attack on British troops in Candia is incorrect.Mickmct (talk) 17:00, 18 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Why do some people keep deleting the word 'Turks' from the article ?

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It is a shameful attempt to try to delete the names of Turkish Cretans who were brutally massacred by Greek troops. As it is clearly mentioned in the article, Greeks executed multiple attacks on Turkish civilians in order to massacre and force them to leave the island. The fact that some of you people keep deleting the word 'Turk' and call the victims 'only Muslims' is at least as heinous as those criminals who did the massacres. The fact that you can not even show any sign of humanitarian feelings towards civilian victims from the late 19th century shows that the ideology that led to those horrible massacres still exists in our society today. To anyone who will attempt to delete the word 'Turk' again, please bring any single source that says the victims were only from the non-Turkish Muslims if you have any. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hsynylmztr (talkcontribs) 12:20, 21 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

The reason for deleting the word 'Turk' is that the victims were not actually 'Turks', but rather Cretan citizens of the Ottoman Empire who were Muslims. Similarly, those who who carried out the massacres were not 'Greeks', but rather Cretan citizens of the Ottoman Empire who were Christian. The Cretan Muslims were almost entirely the descendents of Cretan Christians who had changed religion following the Ottoman conquest of the island and few, if any, had any Turkish blood. As for a source, have a look at 'The Transformation of Ottoman Greece. Revolts, Politcs and Identity in the Late Ottoman Century' by Pinar Senisik. I.B.Tauris, London 2011, p.63 onwards - published when she was an Assistant Professor of Humanities at Dogus University Istanbul. (My apologies for the lack of the correct accents on her name and that of the University.) Mickmct (talk) 17:24, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Another clean up.

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Unless anyone objects, I'm going to a serious clean up on this article. It contains numerous errors of fact. For example, the Greek army landed on the island in 1897 not 1896, evacuation of Kandanos occurred in March 1897, some 18 months before the eviction of the Ottoman forces and the creation of the Autonomous State, and Crete was united with Greece in 1912, not 1908. I will fix the broken links - particularly the ones relating to what, I think, were articles I have published elsewhere and I'll also remove references to 'Turks' being massacred, since those killed in these attacks were Cretan Muslim citizens of the Ottoman Empire rather than Turks.Mickmct (talk) 17:27, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply