Talk:Lava Fork
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Latest comment: 15 years ago by Black Tusk in topic Cone, not a creek
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Cone, not a creek
editI just looked up "Lava Fork" in BC Basemap, and it's listed as a creek; this should be titled "Lava Fork Cones". The nearby provincial park is Lava Forks Provincial Park which should already have a stub. Same as before, please create a new Lava Fork Cone or Lava Fork Cones, whichever, and transfer this material to that; this is not an important creek so does not need an article, but could remain a redirect; it just can't be the principal article with the title as it is.Skookum1 06:57, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, Lava Fork appears to be the more commonly used term for this volcanic region, see here, here, here, here and here. The creek can be a section in the article; as its name suggests, it's volcanic. If no one replies I will go ahead and make the move. Black Tusk 03:23, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- Stumbled upon this page-- see the "stream or volcano" question came up here. The page still seems confused about what it is. I saw it listed in the Rivers of British Columbia category. For what it is worth, Geonames Canada lists only Lava Fork, the river, and Lava Fork Park when one searched on the string "Lava Fork". While adding various coordinates to river pages I was about to add this river's coordinates, listed as 56°22'50"N-130°53'00"W at Lava Fork, Geonames. I didn't, since it is unclear what the page is about. Just fyi. Pfly (talk) 05:31, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
- Skookum1 mentioned a mountain called The Volcano and I have seen this name on bivouac.com during one of my searches a few mounths ago, but I have never seen The Volcano mentioned in any volcanological papers, not even by the GSC. They all mention this volcano simply as "Lava Fork". BCGNIS does mention The Volcano as the source for considerable lava flows in the Unuk River area so it could be part of the Iskut-Unuk River Cones group. But the question for this volcano is what Iskut-Unuk volcano is The Volcano. There is at least six Iskut-Unuk volcanoes that have produced lava flows in the region and with the lack of volcanological information using the name "The Volcano" it is hard to tell which of the six Iskut-Unuk volcanoes it might be. If I knew what Iskut-Unuk volcano is named The Volcano and there were volcanological sources from the GSC using that name I would have no problems creating an article for it. Black Tusk (talk) 21:21, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
- Well, after comparing coordinates again, the GSC Lava Fork coordinates and the BCGNIS The Volcano coordinates seem to place the volcano in the exact same area, so I removed all volcanological information from this article to The Volcano. All volcano articles that link to this article should be redirected to The Volcano article. BT (talk) 22:46, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
- If this page is to be about the creek, the volcano wikiprojects should probably be removed. I'll take them out. Perhaps some of the links under "See also" should also go? Pfly (talk) 01:48, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- There is likely no major need for those wikiprojects now of course, but I kept them because the creek is most likely ingulfed by lava from The Volcano per its name. So it is likely "ok" to keep whatever is still in the see also section if Lava Fork is engulfed by lava. What I ment above was information stating that Lava Fork is a volcano should not be added. Of course stating something in the article like "Lava Fork is close to The Volcano that produced lava flows during the 20th century" or whenever it last erupted, and "Lava Fork is named for the lava flows engulfing the creek that originated from The Volcano" if thats true or not. BT (talk) 03:07, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Also see Talk:List_of_Northern_Cordilleran_volcanoes#Lava_Fork_and_The_Volcano. BT (talk) 03:13, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, well I guess I don't really know anything about this particular place and area. Feel free to restore the wikiprojects. Browsing the topo maps available via the AcmeMapper link from the coords of Lava Fork and The Volcano was interesting but... unfortunately as you zoom in for higher resolution you lose the Canadian topos. Still, the US portion of Lava Fork does appear to be "engulfed by lava". Here's a link to the Acme Mapper topos of the US portion, for what it's worth. Pfly (talk) 08:18, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Those are quite interesting topos. I found a topo map that shows the Canadian portion of Lava Fork, but it's not as detailed like the one you found; here's the link. From looking at that topo map it seems like the lava flow extends right to The Volcano and the Lava Lakes just north of The Volcano are apparently lava dammed. BT (talk) 21:09, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, well I guess I don't really know anything about this particular place and area. Feel free to restore the wikiprojects. Browsing the topo maps available via the AcmeMapper link from the coords of Lava Fork and The Volcano was interesting but... unfortunately as you zoom in for higher resolution you lose the Canadian topos. Still, the US portion of Lava Fork does appear to be "engulfed by lava". Here's a link to the Acme Mapper topos of the US portion, for what it's worth. Pfly (talk) 08:18, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Also see Talk:List_of_Northern_Cordilleran_volcanoes#Lava_Fork_and_The_Volcano. BT (talk) 03:13, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- There is likely no major need for those wikiprojects now of course, but I kept them because the creek is most likely ingulfed by lava from The Volcano per its name. So it is likely "ok" to keep whatever is still in the see also section if Lava Fork is engulfed by lava. What I ment above was information stating that Lava Fork is a volcano should not be added. Of course stating something in the article like "Lava Fork is close to The Volcano that produced lava flows during the 20th century" or whenever it last erupted, and "Lava Fork is named for the lava flows engulfing the creek that originated from The Volcano" if thats true or not. BT (talk) 03:07, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- If this page is to be about the creek, the volcano wikiprojects should probably be removed. I'll take them out. Perhaps some of the links under "See also" should also go? Pfly (talk) 01:48, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, after comparing coordinates again, the GSC Lava Fork coordinates and the BCGNIS The Volcano coordinates seem to place the volcano in the exact same area, so I removed all volcanological information from this article to The Volcano. All volcano articles that link to this article should be redirected to The Volcano article. BT (talk) 22:46, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
- Skookum1 mentioned a mountain called The Volcano and I have seen this name on bivouac.com during one of my searches a few mounths ago, but I have never seen The Volcano mentioned in any volcanological papers, not even by the GSC. They all mention this volcano simply as "Lava Fork". BCGNIS does mention The Volcano as the source for considerable lava flows in the Unuk River area so it could be part of the Iskut-Unuk River Cones group. But the question for this volcano is what Iskut-Unuk volcano is The Volcano. There is at least six Iskut-Unuk volcanoes that have produced lava flows in the region and with the lack of volcanological information using the name "The Volcano" it is hard to tell which of the six Iskut-Unuk volcanoes it might be. If I knew what Iskut-Unuk volcano is named The Volcano and there were volcanological sources from the GSC using that name I would have no problems creating an article for it. Black Tusk (talk) 21:21, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
- Stumbled upon this page-- see the "stream or volcano" question came up here. The page still seems confused about what it is. I saw it listed in the Rivers of British Columbia category. For what it is worth, Geonames Canada lists only Lava Fork, the river, and Lava Fork Park when one searched on the string "Lava Fork". While adding various coordinates to river pages I was about to add this river's coordinates, listed as 56°22'50"N-130°53'00"W at Lava Fork, Geonames. I didn't, since it is unclear what the page is about. Just fyi. Pfly (talk) 05:31, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, I got a reply from a member of the GSC about The Volcano and she was not sure why The Volcano is colloquially called Lava Fork or Lava Fork volcano rather than its official name. But she suspects it is because "The Volcano" is generic. If you speak it, it is not necessarily obvious whether you mean "The Volcano" or "the volcano", making it tough to tell what volcano the person is discussing. Possibly the person who chose the "official" name for The Volcano was not aware that it was colloquially called "Lava Fork", or maybe the use of "Lava Fork" postdates the assignment of the official name. However, she said she will make a note and say something about it on the GSC website, since they definately want readers to know the official names assigned to Canadian volcanoes. BT (talk) 20:51, 7 November 2009 (UTC)