Talk:Lawrence Hargrave

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The artist drawing are nice, but completely inaccurate - they show the box elements as side by side, where the phototgraph clearly shows that they are front and back. I'd like to remove them unless someone objects Clappingsimon talk 02:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

You're right about the drawings being inaccurate. I'd hate to see them go, though, as they provide historical contest (even to the point of showing how inaccurate the public perception was of Hargrave's work). The note in the captions seems like a reasonable compromise.

75.144.4.89 08:22, 18 March 2007 (UTC)Tom place when hargrve had kids if he was married and when his wifes and his parents died

As someone looking for information on the kites, I think the pictures of how they DON'T look (and work) are pretty confusing. Are there no pictures showing what they did look like? Come on, you "experts"!

Date of death

If you Google "Lawrence Hargrave July 1915", you get far more hits for a death on 6 July 1915 than 14 July 1915. So the majority is for 6 July. Yet our primary source, ADB, and various others, say 14 July. Is it possible he died on 6 July and was buried on 14 July? Could the normally impeccable ADB be wrong? Any thoughts, anyone? -- JackofOz (talk) 08:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Hudson Shaw & Ruhen says "... Peritonitus set in and they kept him under Morphia till he died on 6 July 1915" Clappingsimon talk 12:38, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

That's just the problem, though. Many sources SAY he died on this date or that date, but how do we know which is the accurate one? There are far too many going for both dates to just dismiss one of them on the basis of a typo or whatever. Is there a source that discusses the discrepancy and explains how the wrong date (whichever one it is) got into the literature? I've looked extensively but haven't found one. By the way, if Hudson Shaw & Ruhen really spells peritonitis as "Peritonitus", I'd be wary of their lack of attention to detail. -- JackofOz (talk) 13:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, your edit changed the date to 6 July in the lead, but it still says 14 July later in the article. Which brings us back to square one, and exactly why I started checking this issue out in the first place. -- JackofOz (talk) 13:06, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, after a night's sleep, I’ve been doing a bit of digging around our sources. You say Hudson Shaw & Ruhen (1977) says "... he died on 6 July 1915". The original ADB article (Percival Serle, 1949) also uses 6 July. But Amirah Inglis in the most recent ADB (1983) says 14 July. He/she in fact uses Hudson Shaw & Ruhen as one of their own sources, so they must have had a good reason to go against 6 July and prefer 14 July. They had access to the Hargrave papers in the National Library. This seems to be the most up-to-date serious biography of Hargrave, so I’m going with the 14th July as his death date. I’ll put a note in that some sources say 6 July. -- JackofOz (talk) 22:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I've checked the digitised newspapers of the National Library and its definitely reported as him dying on 6 July 1915 - eg Melbourne Argus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.50.195 (talk) 12:36, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

OK, that settles it. Unless he did a Mark Twain, his death was reported on 7 July 1915 as having occurred the previous day, 6 July. Belated thanks. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 00:06, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Citation required

The "Workers must root out the idea that by keeping the results..." quote needs a source.Steven noble (talk) 00:59, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.178.22.207 (talk) 00:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC) 

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this artical about lawrence hargrave is good althrogh it needs more infomation bout his family .

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"Retired with a moderate competency"?

I'm puzzled by this phrase. Does this mean he retired with a pension, or that he was only barely adequate at his job by the time he finished with it?