Talk:Lazy Susan
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SMH article
editA column in the SMH mentioned this article [1] and says that the origin of the name is from a cheesemaker in France in the 18th century called Suzanne. Though since it was just someone's opinion, I dont think it can be included--Astrokey44 23:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
inventor
editactualy there is a drawing by Leonardo da Vincy depicting an apparatus in all ways simillar to the lazy susan, only a lot bigger and used to convey food and drinking to prisioners condemned to the 'obliete' or to soldiers
Edison
editHow can geoge washinton possibly be considered the inventor when they existed before he was born? He may have adopted it for the phonograph, but he was hardly the inventor. This whole section is uncited anyway and should be removed. --69.161.146.61 01:33, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- I agree, and have removed it.71.193.183.86 20:55, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
- George Washington died before phonographs were invented. I suppose you meant Edison? — LlywelynII 10:12, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Stub tag
editI am considering removing the stub tag as there's not much more that can be added to expand this article. It's pretty much as complete as it's going to get in terms of content. Anyone disagree? -- Ϫ 06:57, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
- It's not a stub, but it's certainly lacking in content. These things were never ubiquitous in the US (unsourced claim to the contrary) but they're certainly everywhere all over China. When did that happen? — LlywelynII 10:14, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
sources
editthe link or the source "confirming" the origin of the term "lazy Susan" actually states quite the opposite to the claim:
"A popular theory suggests that.." and "Another theory suggests that" are both annulled by "Interesting as those stories are, there is no hard evidence to support either of them."! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.40.5.245 (talk) 00:32, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
World Wide Words research article
editMichael Quinion has traced the origin of the term to well before the Vanity Fair article. 209.82.43.120 (talk) 15:35, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
- Here's the actual link, though it's good enough I'll probably add it to the article if it's not already there. — LlywelynII 10:26, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
The Weather Line?
editWhat is this referring to? It's not linked, and googling '"The Weather Line" phenomenon' suggests that this is the only big webpage discussing such a thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.246.209 (talk) 21:07, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Capitalization
editBoth words of "Lazy Susan" are capitalized throughout most of the article. Reliable sources don't seem to lean that way.
- Merriam-Webster.com has "lazy Susan"
- Word Reference.com is the same
- Dictionary.com gives "lazy Susan" first, but accept any reasonable capitalization
- The Free Dictionary is the same
- My old paper Merriam Webster's Collegiate 10th edition says "lazy Susan".
Would there be any objection to changing the usage within the article to "lazy Susan"? If there's a consensus, or at least no objection, I'll make the change in about a week. Thank you, SchreiberBike talk 19:24, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
- Change made. SchreiberBike talk 17:47, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, I'll second that you were right to do so. (Albeit it seems like it was originally with caps.) — LlywelynII 10:19, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
China
editWhen did it spread over? and what accounts for it remaining ubiquitous there while it's tapered off in the US? — LlywelynII 17:29, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks!
editI just wanted to say thanks to whoever added the bit about the corner cabinet. It was useful to me. TheMysteriousDrX (talk) 14:03, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- Your thanks is owed to Rohirok, who first added content on corner cabinets in 2006. You may be interested to know that you can search the history of a page with the WikiBlame tool, for which there's a shortcut at the top of every history page (under the title "Revision history search"). Ibadibam (talk) 00:53, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Pinyin transcription of Chinese name
editThe Chinese name for a "lazy Susan", 餐桌转盘, is followed by "p cānzhuō zhuànpán". To the vast majority of English-speaking readers, the "p" will be quite meaningless. If you realise it's a link and click on it, you'll be referred to "pinyin", the Latin transcription of Chinese words. But I really can't see why this isn't simply rendered as "pinyin" - or, even more simply, nothing at all, since "cānzhuō zhuànpán" is quite clearly a phonetic transcription of the Chinese characters.213.127.210.95 (talk) 22:53, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
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Capitalization again
editI went to newspapers.com and searched for "lazy susan". There were over 400,000 results. The first page, 10 results, every one capitalized Lazy. Including the origin of the Lazy Susan (https://www.newspapers.com/clip/97958190/lazy-susans-origin/) (https://www.newspapers.com/clip/97958318/origin-of-lazy-susan/) I also found it preferentially in the works cited in the notes.
If "Susan" were lower case, like "pan" in "frying pan", you could have a "lazy susan". But since Susan is capitalized, then Lazy is part of the gadget's name, and has to be capitalized. Otherwise someone might look for a "fast Susan", and there is no such thing.
So I'm changing it back to Lazy. deisenbe (talk) 21:19, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Looking through the sources, as well as searching online and through different newspapers and books, it seems like the most frequent capitalization in modern times is "lazy Susan" (similar to how dumbwaiter is no longer two words), followed by "Lazy Susan" and then "lazy susan". Newspapers like the Washington Post and LA Times seem to switch between the first two, although NYT seems to be more consistent with "lazy Susan". It seems like all dictionaries also prefer "lazy Susan". Books published in the past 30 years or so also seem to use "lazy Susan" more often. I feel like in hard cases like this, it is preferable to go with sources that have explicit statements, rather than trying to tally up sources and compare the numbers. I have also not come across any rule about both words in an item name needing to be capitalized. – notwally (talk) 18:08, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
Pop culture references
editCurb Your Enthusiasm. Larry David. Season 10, Episode 8 - Elizabeth, Margaret and Larry
Aired on HBO: 2020.03.08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1a4NV-VoFM 2603:7000:D83E:9EEA:20F4:6CA1:A97B:6072 (talk) 05:14, 28 November 2023 (UTC)