Talk:Le Cercle Rouge

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Though internet sources seem to differ, I think the correct French title for this movie would be "Le Cercle rouge"; in French titles, generally only the first word or first noun is capitalized (e.g. À bout de souffle Breathless, Hiroshima mon amour, or La guerre est finie). IMDb.com has it this way, and they're generally the authority; it also seems to be the most common spelling on google.fr and for that matter, in the French wikipedia (now linked to article). I think the "Le Cercle Rouge" spelling that keeps coming up on English Google is just a typical French to English translation error. For now I'm being bold and moving the article to match the French wiki, but if anyone feels I'm in error in doing this, feel free to move it back. --Dvyost 18:57, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

You're probably right, although if you look at the French DVD cover of the film at Amazon.fr [1] both 'C' and 'R' are capitalized, so it's clearly not a universal rule. The Singing Badger 18:36, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

1915 american serial

it should not be confused with the 1970 film. it comprises 14 episodes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jojoniteroi (talk • contribs) 22:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC).

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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 23:01, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Le Cercle rouge → Le Cercle Rouge – Per WP:NCF, the title used in the English-speaking world.[2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15] Relisted. BDD (talk) 05:49, 21 September 2013 (UTC) Film Fan 14:23, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

• Comment. Per MOS:RETAIN, arguing over English varieties is a waste of time. But it's a guideline, and policy WP:COMMONNAMES might overcome that due to reliable sources using the proposed title. Or per MOS:FR, although English title is usually encouraged, a French name may be used if commonly used. However, MOS:FR does not have a rule on French films. --George Ho (talk) 17:19, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

English varieties? This would seem to be a dispute between English and another language; I don't think RETAIN applies. --BDD (talk) 22:11, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

• Support as nominator. Every major film-related website and the vast majority of all other English-language sources use the proposed title/capitalisation. Film Fan 23:43, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Circular reasoning re. title

The article states that the title was chosen with reference to the film's epigraph; however, the epigraph is Melville's own invention. It seems logical to me that Melville wanted to evoke the concept of a red circle (to describe the thieves? or the police? or both?) in both the title and the epigraph for a reason. But where did this idea originate? Could it have been a reference to either Arthur Conan Doyle's short story The Adventure of the Red Circle or Maurice Leblanc's novelization "Le Cercle rouge"? Given that Melville wanted to eventually make an Arsene Lupin film starring Delon, he must have been familiar with the work of both Doyle and Leblanc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.161.112.40 (talk) 16:43, 23 July 2023 (UTC)