Talk:Leader of the Labour Party (UK)

September 2008

Does this really need to be a seperate article? It seemed to be perfectl at home on the Labour Party article. G-Man ^? 21:12, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes it does. TrottieTrue (talk) 21:59, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Hugh Gaitskell.jpg

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"Scottish Labour will ditch Miliband as leader"

• "Labour has taken a major step towards deselecting Ed Miliband as the leader of the party in Scotland. The historic move will mean that for the first time the leader of the UK party will not be the head of Labour in Scotland. It follows Labour’s disastrous showing in May’s Holyrood elections"

Kate Devlin, The Herald, 26 September 2011
--Mais oui! (talk) 08:45, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Kier Hardie

Is there a good reason (or any reason) why Kier Hardie is not included in the list? note: he is named as the inaugural holder of the office in the caption Zanzare (talk) 19:22, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Capitalisation

Is it really "Leader of the Labour Party", or should it be "leader of the Labour party"?-- SGBailey (talk) 22:15, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

• I would say so yes. The word Leader is the title of the positin

Please comment on a RfC at Talk:Jeremy Corbyn#RfC on infobox image

Please share your input in an RfC relating to what image should be used in the infobox at the Wikipedia page for the Leader of the British Labour Party (and at this page) AusLondonder (talk) 09:24, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

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John Smith

I find it very sad that John Smith is the only leader without a photo. Is there really no royalty-free photo that could be used? Mistertickle (talk) 23:04, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

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Should this page be semi-protected temporarily?

Even after the election I still see a number of recent cases of vandalism repeating propaganda against the current leader rather than sticking to factual and relevant information. Whyisalltheusernamegone (talk) 05:54, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Corbyn shadowing Johnson

In the table, Corbyn shadowed three Prime Ministers including Johnson. I'm having difficulty making this change. Could someone please reflect this fact in an edit? SW1APolitico (talk) 12:10, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Fair use rules- inconsistent?

Apparently the reason we can't add the image of John Smith from his article is that images should only be used in one Wikipedia article. However there are plenty of other examples of this rule being broken - not least the picture of Keir Starmer being used here which is the same as the one in his own article. Or am I missing something? MFlet1 (talk) 10:43, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

The difference is that the image of Keir Starmer is freely licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license meaning it is a "free image". Therefore it does not need to meet the Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria whereas the image of John Smith does. Regards  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 14:26, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Guess I need to read up on this. MFlet1 (talk) 17:19, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Sir Keir?

Should Keir Starmer be styled “Sir Keir Starmer” in the article lead and infobox? TrottieTrue (talk) 22:09, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Extraneous titles are not necessary. A similar example would be Planet Earth where Attenborough is credited with his name without any additional titles. Whyisalltheusernamegone (talk) 13:01, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Length of tenure

The article doesn't say but one assumes that there is not a fixed period between elections. The Leader stays in position until they resign or are voted out (vote of no confidence by a percentage of the PLP) Perhaps this could all be clarified 11:37, 23 July 2021 (UTC)Chevin (talk) 11:37, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Leaders without experience

It might be worth noting that only Keir Hardie, George Barnes, William Adamson and Ramsay MacDonald had become Labour leader without any previous roles in the party, prior to Jeremy Corbyn. The latter is certainly the only post-war leader to do so. TrottieTrue (talk) 17:19, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Harriet Harman inconsistency

I wasn't sure which article's talk page to post this on, but I hope this is okay.

Harriet Harman is listed here as having served two terms as acting leader of the Labour party. The article on Gordon Brown lists him as being succeeded as leader of the Labour party by Harriet Harman in his infobox, while the infobox on Ed Milliband's article lists him as being preceeded as leader of the Labour party by Brown. Harman's infobox only shows her serving twice as Leader of the Opposition (between Brown and Milliband and then again between Milliband and Jeremy Corbyn), but does not mention her ever being leader of the Labour party. Similarly the infobox on Ed Milliband's article shows him as being succeeded as leader of the Oppisition by Harman and leader of the Labour party by Corbyn, while Corbyn's infobox has him succeeding Harman as leader of the Opposition and Milliband as leader of the Labour party.

These inconsistencies should be addressed by somebody with a better understanding of the subject. If Harman was ever leader of the Labour party (acting or otherwise), all articles should reflect that and (1) list her as preceding and succeding Milliband in this position on his article's infobox, (2) list her as preceding Corbyn in this position on his article's infobox and (3) add the position of "Leader of the Labour Party" into the infobox on her own page. Alternatively, if she was never considered to be leader of the Labour party, as the articles on herself, Milliband and Corbyn would suggest, all articles should also reflect this. In that case, she (1) should not be listed in this article and (2) be replaced by Ed Milliband as Gordon Brown's successor as leader of the Labour party in the infobox of Brown's article.

Thank you and have a nice day, Storm0005 (talk) 23:51, 12 November 2024 (UTC)