Talk:Lechia

This article has a major problem

First, thank you User:Itzhak Rosenberg for alerting me that this even exists :)

The article does not exist on pl wiki (although there is a pl:Lechia disambig. For many years it was just a short language note of dubious notability that really looks like something better of on Wiktionary (version that was stable until March 2021. I'll note that neither pl nor en Wiktionary has an entry for Lechia, although this may be of some use: Wiktionary:Lechite#Polish, which also links to our Lechites#The_name_"Lech".

Anyway, there was some IP/new account/sock(?) activity that added new poorly referenced content. This was challenged by User:Koopinator and User:R. J. Dockery but the last restoration by an obvious sock was not challened. I am sorry to waste Itzhak's c/e (his version is here), but this is a poorly sourced conspiracy theory that needs to go, and I have serious doubts whether the remaining wiktionary-like entry has any merit. I'll ping few more users who have interest in Polish history/language in case someone thinks there is something to rescue here: User:Lembit Staan, User:Oliszydlowski, User:Nihil novi, User:Volunteer Marek.

Oh, some fun reliable info I found from a recent Polish academic paper: [1] regarding the weird term "Lechina Empire". The term seems to be tracked to a purported 8th-century map, but almost certainly a 18th/19th century fake. Once scanned it made its way on the Internet where some pseudohistory/conspiracy theory fans spun the story that there once was some big Slavic empire that was erased from history because of conspiracy theory whatever. This theory was even discussed by amateur historian Janusz Bieszko in his book Słowiańscy królowie Lechii, but well, it's amateur pseudohistory, a Polish variant of von Däniken just without UFOs, as far as I can tell (funny thing is I think I own the book, I got it as a gift a while ago from my family, never got around to reading it). Now, it is just possible the topic of Lechina Empire (pl: Imperium lechickie) is notable, of course as a type of pseudohistory myth. Googling for "Imperium Lechickie" does show this term is discussed in Polish academic sources, and even predates the Internet era. This may be a fun topic I'll write about in the foreseeable future, but next to nothing that was added here was written or referenced well enough to be rescuable.

Anyway, for now, it may be worth discussing if the current entry (the usage of the word 'Lechai' is rescuable as a stand-alone article) or if it should be just redirected somewhere. Frankly, I'd just recommend merging this current short article to Names of Poland. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:55, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

• 23:44, 4 June 2021‎ Piotrus talk contribs‎ 3,568 bytes −6,892‎ restore stable version before some sock added OR/conspiracy theory/related gibberish

Ha-ha, I am about to write an article about this gibberish (actually pseudohistory), see pl:Turbosłowianie, but it will require some effort to search sources better than in plwiki, and as a "true wikipedian" I keep being distracted with things in which I am a complete ignorant, such as rimonim/Torah rimonim/Question/Rising declarative/Spontis, to name afew :-). Lembit Staan (talk) 07:12, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Lembit Staan Same here, as a "true Wikipedian", I discovered this bizarre article (I can't remember how anymore lol) and spent 3 hours on it, even if I had more pressing things to do ;) -- Itzhak Rosenberg (talk) 11:18, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

• As for the article, I am 100% for merging into Names of Poland. Lembit Staan (talk) 07:12, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
• It is most reasonable to merge this article, as is being suggested. Sorry to see my c/e being not of much use, but at least I learnt about what is doi, Project Muse and I discovered some journals. -- Itzhak Rosenberg (talk) 11:13, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
• Support merge per above. Volunteer Marek 19:23, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
• Support merging this "Lechia" article with the "Names of Poland" article. It makes good sense. Thanks. Nihil novi (talk) 23:06, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
• Support merge - Pretty obvious really. Oliszydlowski (talk) 12:16, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
• Support merge per nominationRatnahastin(t.c) 08:22, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
• Support merge. PS: the Lechina conspiracy theory isn't devoid of UFOs actually, one of Bieszk's other books (Cywilizacje kosmiczne na Ziemi) is about ancient aliens :P SMiki55 (talk) 21:45, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

  Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 13:51, 8 November 2021 (UTC)