Talk:Ledbury Signal Box

Creation on 25/11/2012

The aim of this Wiki page is to describe the history and the operation of a lever frame signal box in the context of a small British railway station before changes including the demolishion og the signal box and track rationalisation. I have noticed that few if any pages in Wikipedia do this and so I felt someone should.Ianmurray5 (talk) 03:11, 25 November 2012‎ (UTC)

Notability

This article has notability because UK government plans, includes the loss all of this type of building/operation/working life and small station operation and I feel that it would be a good idea to preserve details of the 150 year history and life of a small station. There is no particular reason for choosing this location other than right now some of the history still exists but in two years time, much will have been lost and this station is near to me, no other article of the history of a small station exist on Wikipaedia.

The plan is also to create a further article on the history of Ledbury Station for which this article and the article on the current Ledbury station will mesh. Constructive help on writing (style, detail, depth) would be appreciated.Ianmurray5 (talk) 17:29, 6 March 2013‎ (UTC)

Areas

• History of the box.
• Operation of a signal box - day to day running perhaps how trains are managed and use of apparatus would be sensible.
• A look at the Equipment at Ledbury - Tokenless block, Lock & Block, bells, AHBC, alarms and indicators, linking in the item with other wiki pages that describe function.

Ianmurray5 (talk) 03:11, 25 November 2012‎ (UTC)

Help Editing

My skills at editing Wikipages is limited, help would be appreciated.

I need a template to follow the route of historical signal boxes rather than current stations. It sounds easy to edit the template for current station + next/previous and save as however I cannot see away of doing this.Ianmurray5 (talk) 18:40, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

I also need help working out how to organise this page into something readable - it's rather wandering about at present.Ianmurray5 (talk) 18:40, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

We only use routeboxes for passenger stations, not for signalboxes, because the situation really is very complicated and is to a large extent unverifiable.

Regarding the article itself, there is an awful lot of heavy detail which is about railway signalling in general which is not specific to this particular signal box - it is best covered on other articles. But against this, there is a lot of specialised detail, such as the function of every individual lever, which is of very limited interest. To draw a parallel, on the article about the locomotive LNER Class A4 4468 Mallard, we don't go into detail about how steam locomotives work, nor do we describe the function of every control in the cab.

Have a look through Wikipedia:Manual of Style to see how we prefer articles to be written, also Wikipedia:The perfect article to see what sort of content is appropriate. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:19, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, big changes needed. I think perhaps what I need to do is to split the current single page into several wiki pages that work as a group. Something like:

• The existing Ledbury Station Page (unchanged except for a link to below).
• A Historical Ledbury Station Page (the timeline of the station in more detail than in the page above.
• Ledbury Signal Box history & operation (much of this page, but re-written to focus on the signal box).

That should improve clarity and readability whilst giving me a clearing and focused understanding of what I am trying to achieve. Please continue giving me feedback, much appreciated. Ianmurray5 (talk) 12:03, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't see that there is a need to have two articles for the station. Even when two stations which occupied the same site were open at different periods, the normal practice is for them to share a single article - but Ledbury has been open continuously since 1861 so there is even less reason to split. Neither should it be moved to Ledbury Station: per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (UK stations), the article's present name, Ledbury railway station, is correct. See Category:FA-Class UK Railways articles for some examples of top-quality articles, including several railway stations, such as Herne Hill railway station. That is what to aim for. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:44, 4 June 2013 (UTC)