Talk:Lee Seung Seop

re: Starcraft or Warcraft?

so, articles have given conflicted stories. Typically I recall him being a Warcraft enthusiast, but playing Starcraft during his final binge.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jars of Gray (talk • contribs) 10. nov 2005 kl. 06:52

The Articles

Just trying to list the notable unique articles here for a comprehensive look at Lee.

• LA Times; Aug 28 - World of Warcraft, died at hospital a few hours after collapsing, no mention of Starcraft (primary; good article about online gaming in general)
• Gamespot; Sep 12 - Seems to get info from LA Times article, Lee's game of choice: World of Warcraft, but died playing Starcraft, lost his job and broke up with girlfriend (also avid gamer) at about the same time... 6 weeks prior to his death (secondary; but good)
• Times Online; Aug 10 - Lee is 28 years old, Starcraft, no mention of Warcraft (also seems to be derived from the AP release; best of the briefs)
• BBC; Aug 10 - Starcraft, no mention of Warcraft (seems to derive from the AP news release; not too good)
• News.com; Aug 11 - "battle simulation games" no mention of either Star or War (secondary; not a very good article)
• Games.net; no date - Starcraft, no mention of Warcraft (secondary; article also details other people addicted to computer games)
• Seoul Classified; Jan 7 - References death briefly, no details (secondary; talks about popularity in S Korea in general)
• Khaleej Times via AP; Aug 10 - Starcraft, died at hospital a few hours later (secondary; brief)
• KPLC TV via AP; no date - Starcraft, no mention of Warcraft (secondary; brief)

My theory is that there are two basic reports that the media is going on. First there was an AP release probably on August 9th or 10th which had the main details and said Starcraft. It's possible that the AP said Starcraft with no direct evidence of what was on the screen when he collapsed. They may have just heard about his incident in the cafe and assumed Starcraft based on its national (or maybe local) popularity. People who aren't into gaming don't know (or care) about details. My mom at first called every game I played on the NES Super Mario Bros. But giving the AP the benefit of the doubt, let's go with Starcraft.

The second report is the LA Times one which came later in the month and provides more info about Lee, including his full name, old job, and relationship history. It seems that this time around, they interviewed friends and family and probably found out that his favorite game was World of Warcraft. So then it might go to assume that he was playing his favorite when he died.

So neither version gives us absolute certainty. My hunch is that the game was Starcraft because the original report says that his friends found him at the cafe and he responded that he would go home after this game. [1] To my knowledge, World of Warcraft doesn't end in discreet "games" as such. David Bergan 18:21, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I think some of the articles stated that he played a marathon session of WoW which I think is correct. Other articles say that he kicked the bucket while playing Starcraft which is also correct. It wouldn't surprise me if he played more than 1 game during his 48-hour binge. I should probably edit the article to reflect these facts. --Ryan Utt 19:58, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

That's believable. I can go with that. No one really knows (or the people at the scene who could have known didn't care enough to find out) for sure what he played when, but I think we could write the article to suggest your theory. We can guess that he probably died while playing Starcraft based on what he said to his friends. Probably want to use direct quotes from the articles if you can. David Bergan 21:54, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Another possibility is that he was playing Warcraft III, now WoW.

Hoax or re-print of 2002 article?

I have been looking into this, as have others, and as I have posted on the Talk:StarCraft talk page of StarCraft is this a hoax or at least a re-printed version of the original death in 2002? Take a look at the talk page linked above and see what I mean? -Localzuk ^(talk) 19:20, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

It's suggestive but inconclusive. I'd be interested to see this topic investigated further. I think the way to proceed is to find somebody who speaks Korean to see if he can find a Korean source that covered the article first hand. --Ryan Utt 02:09, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

I have contacted snopes.com (I know they aren't conclusive but are still good) and asked them about it. Your suggestion is a good one also. Now how to go about it. -Localzuk ^(talk) 10:41, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

It could be possible, because I could have sworn hearing about this years ago... which obviously wouldn't coincide with the date of death. Maybe it's brain failure, but usually, the things I remember as recent actually happened years ago (Magnolia came out in 1999???), so this would be a case of the opposite. Sorry for the pointless comment, by the way.--72.148.136.13 06:49, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Blood Clot?

I'm removing the edit

", coupled with a blood clot which travelled to his lung"

by 65.54.97.191 until we have a source for that info. I read a lot of news articles on this guy, and never once heard that there was a blood clot as part of his cause of death. David Bergan 17:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Why is this guy even in Wikipedia?

I'm not familiar with how this stuff works, but honestly how is this one guy that important that he's got an article in wikipedia for playing a video game to death when there are numerous other people who contributed much more and are not permitted in because they are not 'noteworthy' enough? I don't know the procedure for asking for an article to be removed, but I would definatly reccomend removal of this article, thanks.

Because his death became incredibly known. People are interested. It's as simple as that. 83.254.135.251 19:33, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Elitism for ya.