Talk:Leixlip/Archive 1

Archive 1

Nightlife

• Club G Located in the Glenroyal Hotel in nearby Maynooth, this club is a popular alternative to the Ozone.

Its' offically called Fizz - [1], plus its what's over the door! - though I have to admit that all of my friends do call it Club G. Having said that it belongs in the Maynooth article, so I've removed it from here. 83.71.6.30 (talk) 22:31, 7 April 2005 (UTC)

Access

Removed a massive amount of POV stuff in the Access section - the bus service to Leixlip is bad, but its not that bad. Very rarely has a bus been an hour late. And Dublin Bus list only their terminus departure times - there are no official departure times for Leixlip on the 66 route, in either direction. Plus the poster had no capital letters, and Megashopilis is NOT a word!!!!. --Rdd 20:37, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

It's spelled "Borromeo"

Read above. And the school is San Carlo (italian), the spanish would be carlos. These are the reasons I edited these entries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmitrysimpson (talk • contribs) 16:56, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Leixlipians

I am one, are you? 213.202.145.170 02:08, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Yes.Dmitry 11:40, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Local History

I added information on Leixlip Spa, Connollys Folly, Town Council and the Festival. Could someone provide info on Leixlip Castle and Desmond Guinness? As of yet they do not get a proper mention or their own article. Thanks! Duey Finster 18:38, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Fixed the coordinates

I have fixed the coordinates. Please stop changing them. The correct coordinates are 53.3636 N 6.4864 W. Test out these coordinates on Google maps and you can see Leixlip with Celbridge and Maynooth nearby (this should be the case as Google only has low-res images of Leixlip anyway).

The old coordinates led you to a satellite image and map from the Netherlands, the reason being that someone put in a minus sign before the western coordinate. However Wikipedia takes that to mean 6 westnegative (i.e. east) even though other programs use it differently. To do a western coordinate in Wiki the W value is positive.

The coordinates are for the official centre of the town (that is, where Capt's Hill and Main St. meet), not the exact centre overall. 149.157.1.154 (talk) 11:30, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

nightlife, hotels etc. does not belong in an encyclopedia. i suggest this be moved .anyone agree. --Qwertyuiopasdfgh vfen 20:42, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it would be better suited in Wikitravel, but as long as it's factual and non-POV I suppose it's alright. 86.42.197.14 (talk) 22:17, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Battle of Confey?

Where's that information about the Battle of Confey from? I also found a reference to Niall Glúndub, the High King of Ireland (and not the king of Leinster) fighting against the Vikings in 917, maybe that's the same battle? --AW 16:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Pronounced how?

Lex-lip? Someone please volunteer. Fitzaubrey 15:08, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Lee ix lip or Leaks Lip whichever sounds better to you --Duey Finster 01:42, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Eoin Rheiinisch

I added info on him. :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by Niall558 (talk • contribs) 12:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

New Wonderful Barn Image

I replaced the old restricted image of the wondie with a less restricted one. I suggest others do the same if they can, always nice to have free images --Duey Finster 01:33, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Hillers and Farenders

Leixlip is divided into two areas because of the two parishes. Everytime I make a reference to this someone takes it out. It's such an integral part of the community I don't understand why someone is always removing it. I will just put it back in. It's probably someone from the Town council who is not in touch with reality.

You must supply references for the information. Sarah777 (talk) 01:07, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Not someone from the Town Council, just (various) regular editors. I include your material here, and it can be included if reference(s) provided - but not in people, more under "Culture" or "Localities."

* Hillers and Farenders: Leixlip is divided into two parishes. People from Confey are known as "Hillers scum" and people from St Mary's are known as "Farenders Legends".

Two Stations

Leixlip has the distinction of being the only town in the Republic of Ireland with two operational train stations

Oh really - what about Dublin , and this needs a cite... 81.2.110.250 (talk) 12:19, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Dublin is not a town! The cite is here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_railway_stations_in_Ireland - an exhaustive list of train stations with only Leixlip repeated. 68.61.30.150 (talk) 20:03, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

You can't cite wikipedia. 89.100.207.51 (talk) 18:37, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Lily Allen

Lily Allen briefly lived and attended school in the town, a year and a half, it was in the article under notable people with a note saying she attend school here. An editor removed it as percieved vandalism, when I re-entred it with a note to their talkpage they seemed fine, but later removed. I re-entred again as I understand she is famous and has been a resident. Since then it has been removed, re-entered and rfemoved again. If there are no reasonable objections, I will re-add. Murry1975 (talk) 14:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Living there for a year and a half when she was six years old doesn't make her a notable person of the town. She lived there for only a short period, and she has no real connection to the town. 89.100.207.51 (talk) 17:49, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

She has a connection with the town and she is notable, I dont see any time limit in the guidelines. I noticed on your original edit you didnt clean out who wasnt notable,may I ask why? Murry1975 (talk) 18:32, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

She lived there briefly, but she has no connection to the town. How do you mean didn't clean out who wasn't notable? 89.100.207.51 (talk) 18:35, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

As per notablity guidelines, there were people on the list who, by this encyclopeadia's standards were not notable, a general rule if they dont have thier own article or are prominent in another artcile, but also WP:What Wikipedia is not and WP:Notability. If someone does something that makes the media it still might not be enough to make them notable, sometimes you get local bands or business people adding themselves or people adding a person that is related to someone famous (yes believe it or not, I have seen so-and-so's cousin comes from..). Why dont you set up an account, you seem to be famialar with wiki.

And back to the point. She has lived in the town, went to school in the town and actually mentioned it in interviews, that is a good connection in itself. Murry1975 (talk) 18:52, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Only one interview that I could see, and that was with hot press (an Irish magazine) so I can see why she'd throw it out there that she lived in Ireland once, but I still don't think that makes her a "leixlip person". I don't know if we're going to get anywhere with just the two of us talking about this. RFC? 89.100.207.51 (talk) 21:37, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

I'd say RfC is a tad early at this stage. Has anyone thought to invite others from the project to share their views on this? That would be an idealogical solution, rather than going to RfC, who probably have a ton of cases to be dealing with anyway. Admins are not superhuman, they can only be in one place, dealing with one thing at a time. See if anyone has access to "message delivery bot" and send out a mass posting to members of the involved projects. Wesley☀Mouse 21:48, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Is RFC not a method for inviting others to share their views? I was under the impression that anyone, not just admins, could comment on an RFC. 89.100.207.51 (talk) 01:17, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

IP89, you may wish to be a little cautious with your reverting of the same dispute content. I've already counted 9 reverts in the less then 2 days over the same thing - way over the allowable 3RR policy. When a dispute arises over content, it is advised to engage in a civil discussion (which this is) and also the article remain in its original status per WP:PREFER until an outcome can be agreed in regards to the dispute content. Also, a POV tag needs to be added to the top of the article, to inform others that there is a dispute, so that they don't accidentally stumble onto the same dispute reverting. Wesley☀Mouse 02:32, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

I've made 9 edits to the page, only 3 reverts related to this dispute. I've been editing other sections of the page, such as the section on weston airport. 89.100.207.51 (talk) 14:29, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

That's why I said to be cautious. I was once caught out in the early days of my membership on here. On one article it shown that I had done 4 edits during a 7 hours period on the page history. A user reported me for 3RR and I got a block without even being warned about it. But me being the ever intelligent one; pointed out to the admin at the time that the 4 edits where not connected. 2 of them where reversions, and the other 2 where inclusions. A different admin unblocked immediately, noting my point as correct. But still to this day, neither the user who blocked me nor the one who reported me, have apologised for the cock-up error. The last thing I'd want to see, is a genuine guy like yourself, falling victim to the same incident as I once did. P.S. Where's me cuppa coffee? I'm getting a dry mouth over here!  :-) Wesley☀Mouse 14:38, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

•  Done Content restored, and POV tag added; while this discussion take place. Wesley☀Mouse 02:39, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Cheers Wesley for your imput. The main crux is that as IP89 puts it " I still don't think that makes her a "leixlip person". ", where as my understanding of "Notable People" is people who have an association with that place not only people who could be discribed as a "TTTTT person", so that is basically the content dispute. I am sure it can be cleared up here and not an RFC, which for a one line point would be a bit extreme after a very short period of discussion. Murry1975 (talk) 08:56, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

I can see both sides to this though, ironically. For example, I'm British born, but for a 12-month period I relocated to Greece to start a new life. The Greeks who know me agree that I am British; however, the understand that for 12 months of my life, I was an honorary Greek. That is due to the fact that I as a person chose to move to a different location. Its like anyone who chooses to relocate their place of residence. Sure, one person started their life in one place, and that would make them native to that town/village. Yet in the same respect they also gain ties and associations with the new place of residence, which too would make them notable to the new town/village. I suppose one compromise that could be looked into, especially in a case like this, would be to separate that particular section. Have one half for "native born" persons from Leixlip; and a section for "associated people" for those (like Lily Allen) who relocated to the area temporarily. Wesley☀Mouse 10:27, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

My thaught would be "Lily Allen lived and went to school in Leixlip for a year and a half", or "Lily Allen temporarily lived and went to school in Leixlip" this should be clear enough I think. It doesnt claim her to be of the town, I didnt think it did in thge first place. Murry1975 (talk) 10:35, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

To be honest, I am a fan of Lily Allen, so I know that she is London born. However, if I was to have read that list in the frame of mind of not knowing where she was from, then yes; I would have assumed that because she is appearing in a list of people native to Leixlip, then she too would also be native to the town. But, as she only moved there due to the circumstances of her mother starting employment there; then Lily Allen's residence was only temporary. And due to the length of time her mother was expected to be working in the area, it would have been logical for Lily to continue her education there (due to her young age at the time). Like I mentioned above, it may be a worthy compromise to list the native-born and the associates separately, thus highlighting both sides of the coin. Wesley☀Mouse 10:43, 27 April 2012 (UTC)