Talk:Leonardo DiCaprio/Archive 1
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Cleanup
The article is poorly formatted. Before any subsections there has to be a definition which should also summarize what he is famous for. The biography section has a bad writing style and diction (changing subjects, etc.). PeepP 23:32, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
I totally agree. Very bad writing style. I surfed in here and clean it up a little, but not a lot. I don't really know much about Mr. DiCaprio so I'm not the one to fix. BernieD 10:24, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Who is this pop star Samantha? It has been widely reported that DiCaprio's squeze in recent years has been the Brazilian supermodel Gisele Bundschen.
Okay, last time I checked Personal Life, it said after he and Bar split, they were spotted kissing at a New Years Eve party. Now it just says they split in October 2007. Did they split up again? Ginnina; 8:18, 1 Febuary 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ginnina (talk • contribs)
The "Samantha" references seem to be clearly false. He has been widely acknowledged as dating Gisele Bundschen for some time, including on the Bundschen wikipedia entry. There needs to be an edit of this to reflect this changes and explain exactly who "Samantha" is, if she exists, and when he began dating his current girlfriend.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THERE IS NO SAMANTHA IT IS JODI-KAYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Tufano" vandalism
Note that edits inserting supposed information about "Marc Tufano" are vandalism and should be reverted on sight. This has affected multiple articles (Robert De Niro, The Beatles, etc. etc.) -- Curps 19:08, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Height
Two heights are quoted on this page - 5'9 and at the bottom, 6'1. Which is correct?
http://www.celebheights.com/s/Leonardo-DiCaprio-15.html, and according to imdb, he is at 5'11". I actually have met him once when he was in his early 20's. he wasn't 6'1" for sure at that time. SummerThunder 07:57, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Interview
This interview has some good info, for anyone interested in expanding/sourcing some of the article Mad Jack 04:55, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
los feliz
someone wrote that his area los feliz was the most expensive area in the usa. well, los feliz probably still is. the library's address 1874 Hillhurst Ave is not really in los feliz. it is outside or on the border of los feliz. it is not a very nice area. therefore, I deleted that line. oh, yea, I have met him once when he still lived there, talked to him. At that time, he was only the actor from Growing Pains. I should have asked him for his autograph. ;) SummerThunder 07:59, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Enron Movie
Feel free to add this information: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117959341.html?categoryid=13&cs=1 Berserkerz Crit 12:43, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
DiCaprio = "from Capri"? No way
In the article it says: «His last name means "from Capri" in Italian». This is absolutely false. Di Capri (as the famous italian singer Peppino D. C.) means "from Capri" (and in fact Peppino Di Capri is "from Capri"). But DiCaprio means "from Caprio", and who knows where the locality of Caprio could be. --Baburkhan 09:21, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Awards table
As of 27th Jan '08, the awards table is a little messed up. Everything above 2003 has invisible borders. The rightmost column movies not always match the award.
WP:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers priority assessment
Per debate and discussion re: assessment of the approximate 100 top priority articles of the project, this article has been included as a top priority article. Wildhartlivie (talk) 11:07, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Leroy-Salta?
This article is about actor Leonardo DiCaprio, but it starts by naming him Leonardo Leroy-Salta. It is at no point in the article explained that he carries a stage name, and he is said to be born as DiCaprio. If there's a reason for which he's being name Leroy-Salta in this article, it's not clear Alexi035 (talk) 15:05, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Titanic
The beginning paragraph states that: "He garnered worldwide fame for his role as Jack Dawson in Titanic (1997), and he has since starred in many other successful films including Romeo + Juliet (1996)..." Romeo + Juliet should be taken out of that sentence of moved further up in the paragraph as it came out before Titanic. --Mjrmtg (talk) 01:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
private jet
Someone should mention that he still flies a private jet. He flew one to the premier of 11th hour. He actually flies on them more then commercial —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.250.49.22 (talk) 23:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
This is relevant why? 123dylan456 (talk) 22:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Growing pains
As I remembered, he played Luke Brower Seaver in Growing pains Season 7. Where's that in the section Filmography? Just search for "Growing Pains" and he's in the staring list.
Vandalized
Someone wrote that he died on November 11, 2008. I've already corrected that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AznWarlord (talk • contribs) 01:33, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Akira
Under directed films for 2009, somebody put the title as "Atari"..., it is in fact "Akira", get it right thx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.247.5.43 (talk) 19:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- "Get it right thx"?? Actually, back at ya. The project DiCaprio is set to produce in 2009 is Atari. [1] [2] However, there is talk that he is attached to a 2011 film Akira. Since Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, Akira is not listed. Wildhartlivie (talk) 21:13, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Well excuse me, sry. Movie does sound interesting though, I didn't know it was real because there is no link. However, it's on the Akira page of Wikipedia, Leonardo is to produce the 2009 Akira film. You can at least see where I came from right?
Emma Miller?
Leo has also been linked with British model and socialite Emma Miller.[23]
When you click on Emma Miller's name, it redirects to a pioneer trade union organiser, suffragist, and founder of the Australian Labor Party in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia who died in 1917. Pretty sure this is incorrect, but I don't know how to fix it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.25.0.210 (talk) 12:27, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
No Mention of his widely-seen work with Madonna!
An early piece of wide exposure for DiCaprio that was skipped in this article is his appearance with Madonna in her popular music video for "Open Your Heart." DiCaprio is the male lead in that video and provides a powerful counterbalance to Madonna's performance. In deed, there are moments where her performance is heightened by his ability to hold screen presence in partnership with her charisma. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.216.159.60 (talk) 01:09, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
- This is all POV, unless it can be referenced by a noteworthy music critic.
Romeo and Juliet
--208.101.123.11 (talk) 22:28, 3 November 2010 (UTC)Leonardo Dicaprio played in Romeo and juliet, I would say this is one of his best performances. The action, the scenes, the love is extroydenary!
Way too much emphasis on ethnicity
Is it just me or is it just plain overkill to have sentences like "In a 2010 conversation with Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, DiCaprio stated that his grandfather was also Russian, and added: 'So I am really half-Russian'" in this article? How does any of that contribute itself to the actor's overall notability? Bulldog123 20:30, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
NPOV violation
The tone of this article violates the NPOV policy. It seems to equal awards/recognition with critical acclaim, not to mention the omission of any bad reviews. - Gene2010 (talk) 14:10, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
He's GERMAN!
Can anybody edit this article and add that he's semi-german? That he's a german-american actor.
Thank You! ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.200.43.252 (talk) 16:35, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Training?
I don't see any mention of traininng in this article. Did DiCaprio have any? Did he study acting anywhere or with anybody? Also, did he attend college? Or neither of these? Thanks. Softlavender (talk) 11:30, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
New picture maybe?
Sadly, I can't upload but maybe a recent picture? —Preceding unsigned comment added by AllianceApprovedMagician (talk • contribs) 21:49, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Freemasonry?
What's up with the "Freemason" link at the bottom of the page? This article doesn't explain anything about a connection between DiCaprio and Freemasonry, so I've deleted the reference.you rock leo i think you are hot
Los Feliz Rebuttal, by an actual Los Feliz resident
I have lived in Los Feliz (the area is very nice IMHO), and DiCaprio did indeed live within the recognized boundaries of Los Feliz. 1874 Hillhurst Ave is most certainly in Los Feliz. This is why the Los Feliz library sits at that address. It is doubtful that they would put the library OUTSIDE of the neighborhood in which it serves.
As to the relative wealth of the area, consult this Wiki article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Feliz
It states that the 90027 zip code (Los Feliz) is one of the most wealthy in the nation.
Here is the excerpt:
"Although Beverly Hills has become the symbol of luxury living in Los Angeles, Los Feliz is one of the most expensive areas in Los Angeles and through the years, has still retained its spot as one of America's wealthiest zip codes, 90027."
I will grant you that the Hillhurst section is on the lower end of the neighborhood's niceties, but it would not be classified as a "slum" by even the most liberal interpretations of the word.
Can I ask why in media they say Leo and mum were poor but he lived here??? My mum wants to know! I just figure he lived in parts that weren't so popular at the time, but still nice.
link
the link of his production company Appian Way, is incorrectly linked. I would fix it, but I don't know how :) Instead of a stub to the company, it links to the actual Appian Way. Could someone fix this?
Cleaning up the upcoming roles
In the upcoming movie section I added a new role he got starring as Nolan Bushnell in the biopic "Atari." I was not sure how to add the year so could someone fix that? Also I was not able to site the source. The website was http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/leonardo-dicaprio-set-to-star-in-atari-/1219299 so could someone fix the year and add the site which is listed? Thanks.
Friendship with Kate Winslet
Should there be a little more detail with his friendship with her? Rusted AutoParts (talk) 11:46 21 October 2010 (UTC)
German; Russian
I deletet the part wich said that diCaprio speaks fluently German. I saw him sometimes here in german television, and he speaks only some words german.84.56.233.65 (talk) 23:01, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
What's up with his paternal grandmother being a Russian immigrant, yet his father was half Italian, half German? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.36.189.152 (talk) 00:53, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
- It says quite clearly she was his maternal grandmother. Wildhartlivie (talk) 02:02, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
No thats false. His maternal grandmother was helene indenbirken and not yelena smirnova. Whoever posted this sh.., can somebody please delete this? --Md edit (talk) 00:01, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- Well, let's see if we can't try and sort this out and give a clue here. His mother's birth name is Irmelin Indenbirken, who moved from Oer-Erkenschwick, Germany, to the U.S. during the 1950s. His maternal grandmother would have had a maiden name, would she have not? This source, which is considered a reliable source, is about DiCaprio being honored at the Russian International Film Festival, and says that his father and his grandmother, Yelena Smirnova, who emigrated from Russia to Germany 40 years ago, were in attendance. Yelena «» Helene? Gee, could those be international variations on the same name? Could Yelena Smirnova have emigrated from Russia to Germany and married someone named Indenbirken? Mayyyyybe. Could the spelling of her first name have been modified to a more Germanic/European spelling? Mayyyyybe. Could Helene Indenbirken have born Yelena Smirnova? Mayyyyybe. Seems reasonable to me. Seems rational to me. And more to the point, seems reliably sourced to me. But I will clarify it. Wildhartlivie (talk) 00:37, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
He said what he is half Russian, his grandfather was also Russian. http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?189798-DiCaprio-told-Putin-that-is-half-Russian http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101124/ts_alt_afp/russiausanimalsenvironmenttigerputindicaprio_20101124133435 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.179.85.73 (talk) 19:52, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
He said the above only to impress Putin. He's half German and visited Germany around 10 times as a kid. His mother is from Düsseldorf actually! He's not really half-russian —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.62.15.137 (talk) 13:39, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
His mother is German and his father is a quarter Italian,German,American and maybe also Irish.But as he was born in America he is American. I think this whole passage is very confusing to every reader and should be shortened and clarified! Especially the part with Putin should be deleted! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.200.47.107 (talk) 14:34, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Relationship status
It says here that he is currently in a relationship with Bar Refeili, but her page says "former relationship with Leonardo Decaprio". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.133.25 (talk) 17:54, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- Well, the DiCaprio article doesn't say "currently". However, I've made a couple of changes. I've changed the DiCaprio article to indicate that his relationship with Bar Refaeli "may have been rekindled" in 2010, as opposed to was rekindled. I've changed the Refaeli article to eliminate the unsourced material about the relationship being over in May 2011 and the word "former" from the lead.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:12, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Ancestry paragraph
Here's what the article says (without the inline sources):
Caprio, an only child, was born in Los Angeles, California. His German-born mother, Irmelin (née Indenbirken), is a former legal secretary, and his father, George DiCaprio, is an underground comic artist and producer/distributor of comic books. DiCaprio's mother moved from Oer-Erkenschwick at the Ruhr, Germany, to the U.S. during the 1950s, while DiCaprio's father is a fourth-generation American of half south-Italian (from the Naples region) and half German descent (from Bavaria in southern Germany). DiCaprio's maternal grandmother, Helene Indenbirken (1915–2008), who was born Yelena Smirnova, was a Russian immigrant to Germany. In a 2010 conversation with Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, DiCaprio stated that his grandfather was also Russian, and added: "So I am really half-Russian"
I haven't checked either the reliability or the accuracy of the sources, but assuming they are reliable and correct, why on earth do we need all this information in the article about his ancestry. I mean, fourth-generation American of half Italian, half German descent? Including where in Italy and Germany the father's ancestors are from? Giving precise information about his mother, where she came from, when she came? Going into his maternal grandmother and her status? Then, there's the laughable quote to Putin that, on its face, doesn't even make sense unless the rest of the stuff in the article is wrong.
My suggestion is we say he is of German, Italian, and Russian descent - and that's it. We then keep all the sources to back it up, and we lose the Putin quote completely. I'm sure a lot of work probably went in to finding all this material, but it's simply way too detailed and unimportant for the article.-Bbb23 (talk) 19:25, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 68.97.4.185, 25 July 2011
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Leonardo Dicaprio will star as Jay Gatsby in the 2012 film, The Great Gatsby, directed by Buz Luhrmann. This information is not on his "History" nor is it in his "Filmography". 68.97.4.185 (talk) 05:13, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- Partly done: I've added a line to Filmography, but I'd need a more specific request before adding anything to History. You're welcome to make a suggestion, citing a reliable source. Thanks, Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 13:29, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- This shouldn't have been added because there's no apparent source that the film is in production. According to our article on the film, a June source said that it would begin filming in "late July", but that didn't happen. I read an article dated July 23 that said they are preparing for filming, which will begin in mid-September. See here. I've never seen a filmography table rely on preparation for filming (that's parsing it pretty fine) - usually, we wait until filming has begun. I will remove it until there's something about filming having actually started. BTW, a mention of the film is already in the body of the article.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:31, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
new relationship with blake lively
he is often seen with gossip girl star blake lively and rumour has it that they are dating but nothing has been mentioned in the article.there is no mention of it even in blake lively's article.
- And nor should there be, as it is not Wikipedia's place to spread rumours. Please see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons and Wikipedia:Verifiability. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 04:10, 14 August 2011 (UTC) (p.s. You can sign posts on talk pages by adding ~~~~)
Edit request from 71.214.195.140, 5 October 2011
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Link under Career/1991-1995 should point to This_Boy's_Life_(film) rather than the book (as it currently does) 71.214.195.140 (talk) 00:13, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
- Done. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:32, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
GA Review
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Reviewer: Ashliveslove (talk · contribs) 07:01, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
- Dead links found. Should be removed.
- Either remove or correct the dead links, and I'll provide a GA status. Rest all checks out fine.
Waiting for the above changes. ASHUIND 07:12, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
* Done ASHUIND 11:23, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Final Analysis
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
- Not much concerns here. Fixed some of the problem I found ASHUIND 11:23, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
- a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- No such concerns here. Article has been searched thoroughly for such references. Few dead links were found and removed. ASHUIND 11:23, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- All such aspects have been covered. ASHUIND 11:23, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fine here.
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- All images are proper till the review date and well captioned. ASHUIND 11:23, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Pass/Fail:
Keep up the good quality of Article. Don't let it delisted.
Regards.
ASHUIND 11:23, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Xtreme City
Xtreme City which is set to be released in 2012 should be added to his filmography. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.205.22.93 (talk) 03:54, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Naples is not a region
Under the "Early Life and Family Section" it states that DiCaprio's family is from the Naples region of Italy. This is impossible because Naples is not a region, but a province within the Campania region of Italy. In fact, Naples is the capital city of Campania. In addition, it's southern Italian not south-Italian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elisa Diana (talk • contribs) 00:26, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- One of the problems is I can't see what the sources say. One is a book (which I don't have), and the other two are only partial articles. In any event, I altered the wording to avoid the use of the word "region", and I got rid of the southern part as not necessary anyway.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:30, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Edit request on 29 January 2012
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The last row in Leonardo Dicaprio's Filmography says that he is filming the great gatsby which is wrong. the great gatsby is currently in post production and he is currently filming Django Unchained.
Swrnyn123 (talk) 08:36, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Celestra (talk) 16:02, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Edit request
His debut film role was in the comedic sci-fi horror film Critters 3, in which he played the stepson of an evil landlord, a role that DiCaprio described as "your average, no-depth, standard kid with blond hair."[citation needed]
The source for that quote is from Harmetz, Aljean (1993-12-12). "The Actor Is Boyishly Handsome, and That's a Liability". The New York Times. Retrieved 2010-08-02. This source appears on Leo's wikipedia page already as number 13.
- It was one of those things where whoever added the CN tag didn't realize that two sentences were cited to one newspapaer article. To clarify any confusion in the future, both sentences are now cited. Thanks for your help.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:51, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
where is the attack that slashed his face ?
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/08/article-1336824-0C67347A000005DC-736_468x286.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clarksmom (talk • contribs) 08:23, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Titanic 3D
Edit request! He has Also Done Titanic 3D in 2012! Write it!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by RobiCher (talk • contribs) 12:22, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 29 March 2012
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change the picture
AJZ00797 (talk) 08:47, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Not done: The {{edit semiprotected}} template requires a request of the form 'please change X to Y'. 'Please change X' is specifically not allowed. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 04:10, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 30 April 2012
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To whom it may concern;
Please change,
"DiCaprio was praised for the authenticity of his South African Afrikaner accent, known as a difficult accent to imitate."
To,
"DiCaprio was praised for the authenticity of his Rhodesian (Zimbabwean) accent, known as a difficult accent to imitate."
He actually has a Rhodesian accent (Zimbabwean) in "Blood Diamond" which is stated in the film. I'm assuming that whoever edited the page has not scene the movie. An Afrikaner accent is quite different to a Rhodesian one. Please change this - as it is a little insulting to Rhodesians. Thank you. 115.64.45.177 (talk) 02:43, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Bility (talk) 21:52, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- After seeing the original comment, I did a search and found a number of reputable sources -- including the official Blood Diamond web site and Blood Diamond's DVD special featurette, 'Becoming Archer: A profile of Leonardo DiCaprio and how was he trained for the war' -- that support the OP's claim DiCaprio's accent is Rhodesian. 0zero9nine (talk) 19:08, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 22 September 2012
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This sentence in the 3rd introductory paragraph: "His latest films Shutter Island (2010) and Inception (2010) rank among the biggest commercial successes of his career.[2]" should be changed to read: "His [i.e. more recent] films Shutter Island (2010) and Inception (2010) rank among the biggest commercial successes of his career.[2]". The existing sentence is no longer strictly accurate as he appeared in J. Edgar after these two films were released. (source: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000138/) This is minor, but I noticed it so others might have! Thanks! Laura 22:26, 22 September 2012 (UTC)Ljohoo
- Done (more or less). Rivertorch (talk) 17:18, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
- Heh, I'm glad you sorted it out. I admit I was a tad confused by the request (no offense, Laura). Your change to the article, Rivertorch, seems right, too. Thanks for taking care of it.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:38, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
Oscar Win?
In the first paragraph it is stated that "He has been nominated for the Golden Globe Award nine times as an actor, and won the Golden Globe Award for Best Actor for his performance in The Aviator (2004) and an Oscar for his role in Inception (2010)." To me this implies that Leo has won an Oscar, which if I am not mistaken, he has not. Inception won Oscars for editing, but Leo himself did not win an Oscar and was not even nominated for his acting role. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.186.44.243 (talk) 21:55, 27 February 2013 (UTC) Reference: http://oscar.go.com/oscar-history/year/2010 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.186.44.243 (talk) 22:01, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
- You're right; I've removed the assertion from the lead. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:10, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Not raised catholic
Just stumbled upon an old Detour Magazine article from 1996. When asked if he was religious he answered "Haven´t been brought up that way." http://www.anlimara.com/articles/detour.html Not sure if that'll be accepted as a reliable source, since it's a fansite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.210.249 (talk) 16:05, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- Leaving aside that it's possible to be "raised Catholic" without being "brought up [to be] religious", any content about an individual's religious background or beliefs should be sourced, and the sentence in question was tagged as unsourced four months ago. I have removed it. Rivertorch (talk) 17:40, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Edit request on 21 May 2013
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Please change: In the course of their trip to Israel in March 2007, the couple met with Israeli president Shimon Peres and visited Refaeli's hometown of Hod HaSharon.[80] The relationship was on hold for a period of six months starting in June 2009; in early 2010, the romance was rekindled.[81][82] to: In the course of their trip to Israel in March 2007, the couple met with Israeli president Shimon Peres and visited Refaeli's hometown of Hod HaSharon.[80] The relationship was on hold for a period of six months starting in June 2009 during which DiCaprio began dating British model Emma Miller, but in early 2010, the romance with Refaeli was rekindled.[81][82] because DiCaprio dated Emma Miller while on a break from their respective partners, Bar Refaeli and Jesse Metcalfe. DiCaprio went on to rekindle his romance with Refaeli and later moved on to Blake Lively. Please see [1] and [2] 31.55.97.224 (talk) 11:29, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Not done: per WP:WEIGHT. DiCaprio's relationship with Miller is already mentioned in the article. Specifically mentioning one date seems a bit much, especially when the sources are a couple of not-always-reputable gossip columns. --ElHef (Meep?) 04:11, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Picture
Very bad picture of him, should be changed to something more flattering.Halfright (talk) 02:56, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
- Wikipedia isn't here to flatter. That said, I agree it's not the best picture. If you know of better recent image, please provide a link. (Hint: it needs to be hosted at Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons and have no licensing problems.) Rivertorch (talk) 04:59, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
I think the picture should be changed to: http://socialitelife.com/photos/leonardo-dicaprio-at-the-2013-golden-globe-awards/nbcs-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards-red-carpet-arrivals-4 it is more flattering and from the recent Golden Globes of 2013. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kikicoupons (talk • contribs) 15:49, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- That image is copyrighted. Rivertorch (talk) 18:05, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
How about his twitter image. https://twitter.com/LeoDiCaprio we know he approves, it's more recent and more flattering. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kikicoupons (talk • contribs) 20:10, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- As I said above, the image needs to be hosted at Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons and have no licensing problems. I don't pretend to understand the nuances of copyright law or image licensing, but I do know we can't just grab an image and use it. This is the relevant policy, if you'd like to read up on it. Rivertorch (talk) 20:24, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
you could always use this image http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Leonardo_DiCaprio_2002.jpg its quite old but the best one (in my opinion) of him on wikipedia/media — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bridie long (talk • contribs) 12:09, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, I think that one would meet policy, but it has two potential problems. First, its composition and exposure aren't good (which might be fixable through some major cropping and tweaking). More probematic, it is quite old, and the general practice is to use a more recent image when one is available. I don't feel strongly about it but would suggest holding off pending a newer, better image being uploaded. That's bound to happen sometime, and the current image isn't that bad. Rivertorch (talk) 19:00, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
What about this image? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Leonardo_DiCaprio_(Berlin_Film_Festival_2010)_2.jpg Let's change it tonight! It's much better. No issue here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kikicoupons (talk • contribs) 18:16, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
- You like it better? It's not dissimilar to the current image; in fact, it looks like it may have been taken at the same photo op. Unlike the current one, it's a heavily cropped three-quarters view, he isn't smiling, and the top of his head is out of the frame. I'm willing to be persuaded, but please explain why you think it's a better choice. Rivertorch (talk) 06:14, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
What's the problem anyway with the current picture? I don't know if it's the most recent but he looks right in front of him, his head is not cut so to me it's acceptable. The one proposed is worse. --Sofffie7 (talk) 20:57, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
Filmography chart
When I was looking to see what films he had been in recently I found it very difficult as he does not have a table of filmography. A clear table showing film title, role, year and nominations should be erected.
Most actors have one so Leo deserves one to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kikicoupons (talk • contribs) 15:54, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- Look harder. You'll find Leonardo DiCaprio filmography, linked from its own section in this article. Rivertorch (talk) 17:36, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Mother's remarriage
In the early life and family section, it says about his mother "She remarried." Apart from being rather awkwardly phrased, this seems to me like the kind of statement that would need a reliable source to back it up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.10.38.44 (talk) 13:20, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- Agreed on both points. It's gone now. Rivertorch (talk) 20:54, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Inaccurate claim in Environmental activism and philanthropy
The second sentence of this section claims:
In the past,[102] he has opted to fly on commercial flights instead of chartering private jets, he owns an electric Tesla Roadster,[103] Fisker Karma plug in hybrid,[104][105] and a Toyota Prius.[106]
Reference 102 leads to this link: http://www.x17online.com/celebrities/leonardo_dicaprio/save_the_planet_fly_private.php
which are pictures of him FLYING PRIVATE, not commercial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.27.37.222 (talk) 03:10, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
- That appears to be the case, and it doesn't look like a reliable source, anyway. I've removed both claim and reference. Rivertorch (talk) 04:03, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Inaccurate Wolf of Wall Street Release Date
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Listed under Career from 2008-present, please change "Filming began on August 8, 2012 in New York, with a release date set for 15 November 2013" to "Filming began on August 8, 2012 in New York and will release on December 25, 2013.[3]" The release date has been pushed back since this segment of the article was updated. Dropthegigawatt (talk) 07:02, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
- Done at [3] with thanks, NiciVampireHeart 11:15, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
Correction to 2nd paragraph under "Breaking into Film"
Please change "mentally handicapped" to "mentally disabled". Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.170.178.86 (talk) 18:05, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Picture is squished
http://i.imgur.com/E3WdTPj.png?1 This is what it looks like on Firefox. I have no idea how to fix it. 50.137.201.131 (talk) 06:56, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Afrikaaner Accent
Since when has an Afrikaaner accent been difficult to imitate? I have to admit I have seen USAicans struggle to differentiate it from an Aussie one, but come on, it is one of the more distinctive accents in the English speaking world. 86.14.187.220 (talk) 22:33, 16 January 2014 (UTC)Lance Tyrell
Locked page?
Can I ask why this page is still locked? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.250.240.91 (talk) 09:21, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- The article is locked; this page is not. When unprotected, the article suffered from vandalism and BLP violations, some serious enough to require revision deletion. Given that history, I doubt you'd be successful if you asked for unprotection, but you may do so at WP:RPP. In the meantime, if you'd like to propose any changes to the article, please feel free; if they meet policy and are otherwise constructive, someone will handle it. Rivertorch (talk) 15:33, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
Gilbert Grape
How can this movie be considered a "financial success" when it lost money? Chicken feed budget and receipts by the standard of most of Leo's later movies, but still, it didn't make a profit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.102.254.89 (talk) 05:03, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
One of the sources is irrelevant
This source:
^ Online Productions. "Leonardo DiCaprio". Aboutgaymovies.info. Retrieved January 13, 2009.
Has no info pertaining to the corresponding section of the article, and I think is just a gay dating/porn site from the looks of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.184.230.90 (talk) 07:24, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Image
Currently, myself and PS171 are in disagreement over what image should be used for this article. For a history of the disagreement, check the revision history starting here, as well as PS171's talk page. PS171 has been reverted by MrX for similar reasons that I listed, but I would still like to build a consensus over what image we should use. The images in question are below:
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Original image
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New/suggested image
Corvoe (speak to me) 13:40, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
- I like the one from the Wolf of Wallstreet Premiere. Infobox images should be the best headshot and also most recent image available. Since this image is both, and the later is a harder angle and 4 years ago, it's not the best choice. LADY LOTUS • TALK 14:36, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
- 2014 Wolf of Wall Street Premier photo - Because it is more current, shows more of the subject, and has better white balance and exposure.- MrX 15:12, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
I prefer the more recent picture as well. I don't find the general quality of it to be worse than the other picture. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 18:16, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
- I prefer the first pic (for the Shutter Island premiere), because in the second pic he seems to have a forced, unnatural smile, plus the first pic highlights a movie premiere that is more representative of the actor's work (he's definitely NOT a comedy actor). Pictures in the lead should never offend the person, especially a living one. The first image is totally OK. PS171 (talk) 15:00, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
- User:Lady Lotus also believes that the second pic of Angelina Jolie from below should be IN THE LEAD of her article.
- Talking of forced smiles and recent photos...
- Quoting the guideline: Lead images should be selected to be of least shock value; if an alternative image exists that still is an accurate representation of the topic but without shock value, it should always be preferred. There's no preference for recent images IN THE LEAD of an article. PS171 (talk) 15:23, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
- I don't see any shock value in any of these images. In any case, consensus overrides guidelines.- MrX 15:31, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
- I see nothing forced about either of their smiles. Her smile looks totally natural as does his and you reverted the edit again. No. Not while the discussion is still going. What "shock value" do the ones we suggest hold? Both are better headshots and happen to be more recent. LADY LOTUS • TALK 15:35, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
- I'm also extremely confused as to what you're talking about. The "shock value" couldn't apply less. I don't think anyone's gonna see DiCaprio's smile and be surprised that his face is emoting. Further, the image in the infobox does not have to reflect the subject's work, but rather the subject's appearance. In the case of people, a recent high quality photo is appropriate. That is what we have. Take Samantha Barks, an actress whose image I recently replaced. That image illustrates her face far better than previous (and often pixelated) images have, but it was taken at a Fendi store opening. That image does not imply that Barks' career is "store opening attendee", does it? Corvoe (speak to me) 15:59, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
- I like the newer one from the Wolf of Wall Street. It seems to be unanimous that everyone except for the one user prefers this photo as well, it should stay. ForteSP33 (talk) 15:55, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Image caption
Pinging all editors from previous conversation: Erik, PS171, MrX, Lady Lotus, ForteSP33
I'm done with edit warring against PS171, so again, I take this to the talk page. PS171 now says that since the image is from a Wolf of Wall Street premiere, it "does not represent the subject fairly and this is the lead, so we swap the images as I suggested or shorten the caption..." and has shortened the caption to "DiCaprio in London in January 2014" instead of "DiCaprio at the London premiere of The Wolf of Wall Street, January 2014".
Based on the conversation on the image itself, I'm pretty sure we established that the image is fair representation of the subject since it was decided it was the better choice. However, since it wasn't explicitly discussed, I'd rather not revert again and I'm going the safe way.
Thoughts, everyone? Corvoe (speak to me) 17:14, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- Even though you did mention WP:LEADIMAGE in your edit summary, you most definitely don't act in its spirit, dear admin-wannabe Corvoe. The Wolf of Wall Street has very little to do with the 20-year long career of this actor, and the movie is already mentioned in the lead text. I really think that even if we do pick this image, diverting the reader TWICE to this movie in the lead is a bit of a stretch. At least if you really read WP:Leadimage. PS171 (talk) 17:21, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict) :How about "DiCaprio at the The Wolf of Wall Street premiere in January 2014"? It shortens it a bit. But per WP:CAPTION, it needs to be more than just the date, it's nice for a user to know where the picture was taken. LADY LOTUS • TALK 17:22, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- We could mention Titanic, Inception, The Departed, The Aviator etc. twice in the lead, but if you try to act according to WP:Leadimage, you won't mention this mess of a comedy TWICE in the lead. Or rather use the other image instead. PS171 (talk) 17:26, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict):I'm not sure it matters a great deal. The shorter caption is fine with me, as is the longer one. I do think that PS171's reasoning is flawed though. If the only reason for shortening the caption is that "the movie does not represent the subject fairly and this is the lead", then I have to ask what policy or guideline instructs that a movie must represent the subject of a biography at all.- MrX 17:28, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I don't see anything at WP:LEADIMAGE that talks about captions. I don't have a strong preference for either caption. I would even be fine with keeping it simple with "DiCaprio in January 2014" because we do not have to be explanatory with the lead image. If we used the image in the article body, a more extensive caption would be warranted to fit it in context. As a reader, if I go to an actor's article, the timeframe of the actor's lead image is all I need, to understand how recent it was. (There are some actor articles that use images from the '80s and '90s, so that clarification helps.) Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 17:31, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- "what policy or guideline instructs that a movie must represent the subject of a biography at all"- In that case please tell me why should we mention a comedy TWICE in the lead of an article about one of the best DRAMA actors of the last two decades?
- "it's nice for a user to know where the picture was taken." - London, January, 2014
- "we do not have to be explanatory with the lead image" - Agreed. PS171 (talk) 17:37, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- I have no vendetta against you, PS171, I just disagree with your edits. I want nothing but the best for this article, but you seem to think I'm acting out of malice, like I want to make it as terrible as possible. Help me understand what you think I'm doing wrong. What portion of LEADIMAGE, specifically, am I working against? That portion of the MOS says nothing about photo captions, or the photo reflecting the subject's work. It is there to reflect the subjects themselves, which in this case, is Leonardo DiCaprio. The image is not there to reflect his career, it is to display his appearance as recently and accurately as possible. Also, how is describing the image's context diverting the reader? The reader will click what the reader wants to click, if he/she has no interest in The Wolf of Wall Street, he/she won't click it.
- I agree with Lady Lotus's suggestion for the caption. I also agree with Mr. X, based on the fact that PS171 has now said "you won't mention this mess of a comedy TWICE in the lead." Correct me if I'm wrong, PS171, but it appears that you are trying to lower exposure of the film because you personally don't like its inclusion, or, more likely, the film itself. I'm not trying to be rude or presumptuous, and I apologize if I'm coming off that way. Corvoe (speak to me) 17:33, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
I'm quoting parts of the guideline, because I think you're going clearly against its spirit by mentioning a comedy twice in the lead of an article about a DRAMA actor:
The image helps to provide a visual association for the topic, and allows readers to quickly assess if they have arrived at the right page.
Image selection for other topics may be more difficult and several possible choices could be made. While Wikipedia is not censored, as outlined in the above section on offensive images, the selection of the lead image should be made with some care with respect to this advice. Lead images are loaded and shown upon navigating to the page, and are one of the first things that readers will see. Editors should avoid using images that readers would not have expected to see when navigating to the page. Unlike other content on a page that falls below the lead, the lead image should be chosen with these considerations in mind.
Lead images [...] not only should be illustrating the topic specifically, but should also be the type of image that is used for similar purposes in high-quality reference works, and therefore what our readers will expect to see. Lead images are not required, and not having a lead image may be the best solution if there is no easy representation of the topic.
Lead images should be selected to be of least shock value; if an alternative image exists that still is an accurate representation of the topic but without shock value, it should always be preferred. PS171 (talk) 17:48, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Update: Sorry, the comedy wolf of Wall street was actually mentioned THREE TIMES in the lead, dear impartial fellow editors. I rest my case. PS171 (talk) 17:59, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) If I were a new user coming in to look at his page and all I read was "DiCaprio in London in January 2014" I would want to know more. By saying "DiCaprio at The Wolf of Wall Street premiere in January 2014" you tell them where he was "at a film premiere", you don't have to wiki link the film's name if you're worried about "mentioning" it twice. You keep saying shock value when literally no one know what you mean by that and you've yet to explain it. What shock value does this image hold? It's him at a recent film premiere. Nothing shocking. LADY LOTUS • TALK 18:02, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- You can make light of this, but this is the lead of the article. I hope you do realize that if we do mention Wolf of Wall Street just once (as it is now), we could proportionately add at least a whole paragraph on Titanic or Inception, and we could still add a short description of movies like The Departed or Shutter Island... just to name a few movies with more artistic value than that comedy. PS171 (talk) 16:58, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
- Ok you're still ignoring the questions that we keep asking you:
- What "shock value" are you talking about?
- What does "going against its spirit" mean?
- And the caption is in the infobox, you're just telling a user where he was, which is appropriate. LADY LOTUS • TALK 17:07, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
- @PS171:, so are you going to answer those questions? LADY LOTUS • TALK 17:44, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
- Ok you're still ignoring the questions that we keep asking you:
- You can make light of this, but this is the lead of the article. I hope you do realize that if we do mention Wolf of Wall Street just once (as it is now), we could proportionately add at least a whole paragraph on Titanic or Inception, and we could still add a short description of movies like The Departed or Shutter Island... just to name a few movies with more artistic value than that comedy. PS171 (talk) 16:58, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) If I were a new user coming in to look at his page and all I read was "DiCaprio in London in January 2014" I would want to know more. By saying "DiCaprio at The Wolf of Wall Street premiere in January 2014" you tell them where he was "at a film premiere", you don't have to wiki link the film's name if you're worried about "mentioning" it twice. You keep saying shock value when literally no one know what you mean by that and you've yet to explain it. What shock value does this image hold? It's him at a recent film premiere. Nothing shocking. LADY LOTUS • TALK 18:02, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- PS171, an actor is an actor is an actor. Actors can do whatever they please. Bill Murray, for instance, is a comedy actor who has done several serious roles. Perhaps DiCaprio intends to move in the opposite direction. I'm really not appreciating how you're repeatedly saying I'm "going against its spirit", whatever that means, and that you seem to be personally against me. I've done nothing but express my opinions on the issue at hand, rather than on yourself (with the exception of assuming you dislike the film, which I apologize for, as it was out of line). Can we please shake hands and call it a day, go back to talking with civility and poise? You seem like you only want the best for the articles you encounter, as do I. We just have different outlooks, that's all. Corvoe (speak to me) 21:25, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Two Russian grandparents?
Once he said he have TWO Russian grandparents. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/8156277/Vladimir-Putin-Leonardo-DiCaprio-is-a-real-man.html Who knows more?
No Oscar
Maybe something should be said about this.Vagout (talk) 21:32, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
- @Vagout: Such as what? It's already included in the lead that he has been nominated for five Oscars and ten Golden Globes, and his wins are reported directly after that. Corvoe (speak to me) 20:34, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
"He speaks french fluently."
I know there's a source for it but still I highly doubt this is true. He was on a fenchtalk show and he needed an earpiece and gave all his answers in English (link). To my knowledge, the only evidence of him knowing any German at all are a few Youtube clips of him speaking some short phrases (link 1 and link 2), which I would hardly classify as him being "fluent." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.64.76.94 (talk) 00:18, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- For our purposes, I think the question turns on whether Encyclopedia of American Cinema is a reliable source. I can't find a whole lot of information on that specific reference, but the use of encyclopedias and other tertiary sources is generally deprecated when secondary sources are available, and it's usually permissible when they're not. (Some Wikipedians disagree.) A fairly extensive Googling turns up nothing more reliable, so we may be stuck with it unless that source is deemed unreliable. It may also be worth noting that fluency can't really be quantified, so reasonable people—and reliable sources—could legitimately disagree. I suppose we might consider removing the adverb and just say he speaks German. Rivertorch (talk) 06:38, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Sie könnten diesen Satz auch einfach streichen. Weil er nicht stimmt... = You might consider removing the entire sentence because it is simply not true. Whatever your source pretends: Leonardo DiCaprio speaks no German. At all. Everybody in Germany knows that. He never gave an interview in German nor did he say something in that language on german television or radio - besides litteraly a few loose and short phrases about food, which has nothing to do with "speaking a language", let alone fluently... When asked (and of course, he has been constantly asked in Germany) he claims himself not to speak it. So please delete this nonsense. Auf-7-Meeren (talk) 01:55, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
funny, because here he does speak German [4]--77.181.8.214 (talk) 02:14, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
Haha. Funny is only that you choosed this clip to prove that he does speak german, meanwhile it totally underlines my point. You're obviously not able to understand German yourself... So thanks for the link. Quot erat demonstrandum. Auf-7-Meeren (talk) 21:32, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
His German in this clip is pretty good. Didn't you say that "he speaks no German. At all." The Encyclopedia of American Cinema also doesn't agree with you, so who cares about your personal opinion.--93.130.251.114 (talk) 00:14, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
[OP here, I left my original comment anonymously] The rub for me is that all evidence I have seen so far points in the direction of him knowing very limited German, barely enough to converse and certainly not enough to merit the adverb "fluently", so I am inclined to believe the Encyclopedia simply got it wrong or exaggerated their evidence. Does anyone have access to the encyclopedia and can shed some light on how/whether it backs up its claim? If the sentence must stay, and I am still in favor of deleting it entirely, than I support Rivertorch's suggestion of removing the adverb, maybe saying he speaks "some" or "conversational" German, as a compromise.--RaineBender (talk) 13:06, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
You want to delete a sentence that is properly referenced with a WP:RS, because of your original research interpretation of some "evidence"? I don't think so. --89.204.155.214 (talk) 22:48, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Okay, no need to be snide. All I said, and have been saying, is that there seems to me to be a discrepancy between this source's claim and reality. I am relatively new to Wikipedia, so I don't know what the policy is on editors/writers feeling a reliable source might be wrong about something. I just thought it might be something worth looking into, which is why I addressed it here.--RaineBender (talk) 11:38, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- This is why no one uses wikipedia. First, wikipedia says "a fact is something that you can link to a website". I don't know where they got that from. Most of the stuff on-line is WRONG. Real information comes from books and experts. Not fake websites and retards voting. Then when one follows the rules, edits an article, posts a reference, then people say "I don't like it anyway! Remove it!" or "I read something else on another website, so your other link is wrong!". Damn. Wikipedia is like a bunch of retards fighting over the control of the TV remote with a group of old women from the senior home.184.155.130.147 (talk) 15:37, 26 August 2014 (UTC)